The cutoff date of CR is negotiable, meaning Dale can do as he pleases. He saw fit to post pics of my 1986 Peugeot PZ-10 on the CR site, so I don't think he'll abuse you for a 1986 Regina BX FW.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Houston, TX
> Jerry,
>
> Should I assume from the stamp on the freewheel, that we looking at
> "non-Classic Rendezvous" 1986 vintage bike? Or do you have do have a
better
> way to put an age on the bike?
>
> P. Lynn Miller
> Sydney, Australia
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
>
>
> > Yeah, 86 is probably the date. 120mm is not likely, as this would match
> > Zeus (a story for another time), but 122 would match Stronglight, the
> > dominant French crank for many decades. Stronglight rings are readily
> > available at reasonable prices. How many teeth does the largest cog on
> the
> > BX freewheel have? If it is no more than 26, or 28 at the most, you can
> use
> > the Campy Nuovo Grand Sport rear derailleur.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> > To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> >
> >
> > > Jerry,
> > >
> > > As near as I can tell the hole spacing would be 120mm+-. Now that I am
> > > critically checking over the bike, I found that it has a Regina Extra
BX
> > > freewheel with an 86 stamped on it. Is that a date?
> > >
> > > P. Lynn Miller
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > http://members.optusnet.com.au/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> > > Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > >
> > >
> > > > That is a Solida alloy cotterless crank. Never knew they made one.
S
> ee
> > > if
> > > > you can measure the diameter of the circle formed by the holes in
the
> > > > chainring, or just measure the distance between adjacent holes.
Those
> > hole
> > > > are for mounting a second chainring. If it is a common bolt circle
> > size,
> > > > you can probably buy an extra Campy, Stronglight or TA chainring to
> fit.
> > > If
> > > > not, since the crank is cotterless, you might be able to use the BB
> with
> > a
> > > > Stronglight or TA crank. Might even be able to use it with a Campy
> > crank,
> > > > but this is less likely as the axle taper on most French cranks was
> > > > different from Campy.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Moos
> > > > Houston, TX
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> > > > To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 5:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have posted a picture of the crank here -
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/
> > > > -
> > > > > as you can see, it is not a particularly good crankset, with a
> pressed
> > > > steel
> > > > > chain ring, and no "spider". Here is a poor picture of the bike -
> > > > >
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/
> > as
> > > I
> > > > > bought it. I do not think the bike is top-drawer or even close,
but
> my
> > > > wife
> > > > > loves it and I must it admit it rides very well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was thinking Campy simply because I have no love for
> > Shimano(personal,
> > > > > they make very good stuff). It has 170mm cranks at the moment, if
I
> > can
> > > > find
> > > > > a pair of 167.5mm, I will change them since my wife is around 5'
> 6".
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > > P. Lynn Miller
> > > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > > http://members.optusnet.com.au/
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > To: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>; "Classic
> > Rendezvous"
> > > > > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:24 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds like an old French steel Solida cottered crank, so
the
> > BB
> > > > cups
> > > > > > "S" is probably Solida also. Is it steel with the arms held on
> with
> > > > cotter
> > > > > > pins? If so, this crank was pretty heavy and not rare or
> valuable,
> > so
> > > > it
> > > > > > would probably be better to replace the crank and BB. With a
> French
> > > > > crank,
> > > > > > one is always afraid the BB cups are French threaded, but if it
is
> a
> > > > > > Coventry Eagle frame, it is almost certainly English BB thread,
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > > essentially the same as modern ISO, so finding a new BB to fit
the
> > > frame
> > > > > > should not be a problem. Personally, on an English mixte frame,
> I'd
> > > use
> > > > a
> > > > > > TA or Stronglight crank, but a Campy crank and BB will be easy
to
> > > find
> > > > if
> > > > > > you are willing to pay the price. As to crankarm length, 175 is
> > > > > noticeably
> > > > > > different from 170. Also, unless your wife is quite tall, 175
is
> > > > probably
> > > > > > too long for her. Most average sized American women would ride
> 165
> > > > > cranks,
> > > > > > rarely more than 170.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jerry Moos
> > > > > > Houston, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> > > > > > To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:09 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jerry,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not know kind of crank it is, but here are the markings
on
> > it.
> > > On
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > crank arms, outside - SOLIDA, inside - D6 21 Made in France,
on
> > the
> > > > > > > chainring - Made in France, the BB caps - a capital S, Made in
> > > France.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > am going to assume it is Simplex. There looks to be provision
> for
> > an
> > > > > > inside,
> > > > > > > smaller chainring, but finding one could be a trick. I do not
> have
> > a
> > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > changing the whole bottom bracket, if I need to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the first time I am going to attempt a complete
rebuild,
> > so
> > > I
> > > > > > > appreciate any advice given. I have decided to stay with a 5
> speed
> > > > > > > freewheel, that should make our choices a bit easier.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P. Lynn Miller
> > > > > > > http://members.optusnet.com.au/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > To: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>; "Classic
> > > > Rendezvous"
> > > > > > > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:54 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You can't usually fit a 6-speed FW in 120 rear spacing, but
> > > SunTour
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > early 80's made "Ultra-6" narrow spaced FW's that would fit
6
> > cogs
> > > > in
> > > > > > > 120mm
> > > > > > > > rear spacing. A few others copied the idea. If you don't
go
> > > bigger
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > 26
> > > > > > > > or 28T tops on the large rear cog, you can use the Campy
Nuovo
> > > Sport
> > > > > > > > derailleurs. You can certainly buy a Campy Nuovo Record or
> > Super
> > > > > Record
> > > > > > > > crankset, but these are expensive. You can buy Campy Grand
> > Sport,
> > > > > > > Victory,
> > > > > > > > or Triomphe cranks cheaper, but the Victory, Triomphe and
some
> > > > > versions
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Grand Sport used unique sized chanirings which are now
> difficult
> > > to
> > > > > find
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > all the sizes you might want. A modern Campy Mirage is
> > relatively
> > > > > > > > inexpensive and chainrings are easily available. It is
> possible
> > > you
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > add another chainring to the crank on the bike. What kind
of
> > > crank
> > > > is
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > > > Note that if you change to a different crankset, and
possibly
> > even
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > just add a chainring, you will probably need to change the
> > baootom
> > > > > > bracket
> > > > > > > > axle or perhaps the whole botom bracket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jerry Moos
> > > > > > > > Houston, TX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "P. Lynn Miller" <lynnmiller@optusnet.com.au>
> > > > > > > > To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:14 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good day,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am in the process of reworking my wife's mixte, which is a
> > > > Coventry
> > > > > > > Eagle,
> > > > > > > > a very nice light lugged steel frame made from Tubi Oria
> > Cro-Moly.
> > > > It
> > > > > > > > currently is a five speed using mostly Simplex parts in the
> > drive
> > > > > train,
> > > > > > > > Maillard? hubs with no name 700C rims, and Wienmann brake
> levers
> > > and
> > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > pulls. I am not sure what year it is, but it is a very nice
> > > looking
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > handling bike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I want to add a chain ring or change the crank set to have 2
> > chain
> > > > > rings
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > front. It has 120mm spacing on the rear, so I am not sure
what
> > the
> > > > > > maximum
> > > > > > > > amount of cogs I can get in that space. I want to use all
> > > Campagnolo
> > > > > > > parts,
> > > > > > > > does not need to be from the same vintage as the frame or
even
> > all
> > > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be a certain group. This choice is the result of me picking
a
> > bike
> > > > up
> > > > > > > along
> > > > > > > > side the road with Campagnolo parts. The frame is too large
> for
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > household but it does have Campagnolo Gran Touring Novou
front
> > and
> > > > > rear
> > > > > > > > derailleurs with down tube shifters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So can anyone tell what groups or vintages to look for that
> > would
> > > > > allow
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > to build a high quality yet economical bike for her. There
> seems
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > huge array of groups, names and vintages out there. I
planning
> > to
> > > > > > replace
> > > > > > > > the parts in this order -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Drivetrain - I have the front and rear derailleur and
> shifters,
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > find
> > > > > > > > the crankset and freewheel. Can I fit a 6 speed in 120mm?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hubs and rims - Need to source all parts. Since this is
mostly
> a
> > > > > touring
> > > > > > > > bike, what the best spoke count? Front & rear?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brakes - Levers and callipers - need to source all parts
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also how difference is there practically between 170mm
cranks
> > and
> > > > say
> > > > > > > 175mm?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for your time
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > P. Lynn Miller
> > > > > > > > http://members.optusnet.com.au/