Fw: [CR] OT; A time for protest?

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From: "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com>
To: "CR list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Fw: [CR] OT; A time for protest?
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:59:34 -0800


It is OT, But I gotta post this to the list.

Tom Martin
Oakland CA
right next to berkeley could you guess....?


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martin
To: Jon Schaer
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] OT; A time for protest?



> Maybe it will fade into nothingness, maybe it already has.
> There is a larger issue here - more than just some bottles being thrown at
> rinky dink bike riders. It is more than just the recreational use of bikes.
> We recreationalists are truly the minorities on the roadway- there are a lot
> of 'invisible' people that have no choice but to get around on bike- mostly
> immigrants and the poor and the young. And we love to demonize those classes
> of people in this country. That is who we will need to fight for. Not just
> for our own rich wanna be racer (present or past) asses.That is who the
> thunderhead alliance, bikes belong, and every local bike advocacy org is
> fighting for. There is a huge disconnect with advocates and users, and the
> chasm is even wider between commuters and recreationalists. I hope you are
> wrong too, but taking the attitude that nothing can be done so we shouldn't
> do anything is a self realizing prophecy.
>
>
> Tom Martin
> Cranky in oakland CA
> No pun intended.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Schaer" <jschaer@columbus.rr.com>
> To: "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR] OT; A time for protest?
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > Rosa parks was told the same thing. The guys at the lunch counter were
> > told the same thing. It worked with CBS- they pulled the Reagans
> miniseries.
> > > It's gotta start somewhere and with someone.
> > >
> >
> > Well, you just watch. This issue will fade into nothingness within six
> > months. With things that can impact a large or influential group, even
> small
> > efforts can grow to have an effect. Problem is, no one of significance
> cares
> > about pissing off or threatening cyclists. At even a national level, we
> have
> > no political clout and no financial clout, therefore no power to
> influence.
> > I dearly hope I am completely wrong, but time will tell.
> >
> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > JMS