Gary,
Have you seen:
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No relation to seller.
Best Regards,
David
David G. White Burlington, VT
Gary Chottiner wrote:
>I\u2019m the person who wants a Cinelli. I actually did know about the$2300
>Super Corsa on eBay before I posted my message and had contacted the seller
>about it but wasn\u2019t interested in that bike at that price.
>
>Perhaps I should ask the people on the list whether I really should pursue a
>Super Corsa. I see that Don Gillies is trying to compare them to
>Paramounts. I own two Paramounts (1958 black beauty and 1972 chrome) but
>haven\u2019t actually ridden either because they are basically NOS or near-NOS; I
>hate it when that happens. My significant other has an 80\u2019s Waterford
>Paramount with 70\u2019s Campagnolo components and she has a gorgeous early 80\u2019s
>Colnago with pantographed Super Record parts. She's told me for a couple of
>years that the Colnago is a dream to ride compared to the Paramount (I think
>it's the paint job) and so I\u2019ve wanted to get an Italian bike myself to try
>out. The Colnago\u2019s seem a bit too common (please don\u2019t take offense anyone,
>it's just that there are a lot of them out there) and the look of the
>Cinelli\u2019s appeals to me, so I thought I\u2019d try to pick one up to see if it
>really is any better than the other steel bikes that I commonly ride
>(Proteus, 753 TI Team Raleigh).
>
>So, does anyone out there have an opinion (HA, HA!) on whether Italian bikes
>are special (to ride, not to look at) and, if so, which is the best of the
>bunch from the 60's/70's era? If a Colnago is just as good, I could save
>myself a lot of time and money. And if none of them really feels that much
>different from American/English bikes, I can save that much more.
>
>Gary Chottiner, Northeast Ohio
>
>____
>
>I am always surprised at the pricing of cinelli super corsas in the
>early 1970's, vs. the american equivalent, a schwinn paramount p-10
>or maybe p-12. Let me preface this by saying that I think that the
>cinellis are beautiful bikes, _however_, to state this in the most
>provocative way possible :
>
> is one chromed lug and one fancy-painted headbadge really
> worth $1000 extra?
>
>what do people think ?? Was the paramount a "ripoff" of the cinelli
>artistic design? Who adopted this understated look first, cinelli or
>schwinn ?? Because from 10' away, or at 20 mph, it's hard to tell the
>difference between the bikes.
>
>- Don Gillies
>San Diego, CA