[CR]Putting a 6 or 7 speed freewheel on a 5 speed rear end

(Example: Framebuilding:Technology)

From: "Mark Petry" <mpetry@bainbridgeisland.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:43:43 -0800
In-Reply-To: <CATFOODAlTWRk48oryE00000dd1@catfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]Putting a 6 or 7 speed freewheel on a 5 speed rear end

David -

This is easy to do, but hard to do "well". First - the absolute number of cogs has little to do with the ratios you select and what sort of grades you'll be able to climb. Assuming Campy derailleurs, the best you can hope for in the rear is a 28t, whether it's mounted on a 5, 6, or 7 speed freewheel.

Easiest approach is to use a 14-28 Suntour "ultra 6" freewheel which should thread right on to your existing hub, with no change to dishing, spacing, or anything else.

Next step is to go to a 126mm axle which will require you to replace your rear axle with a longer one (about 135mm if memory serves) and additional spacers on the freewheel side. Careful setup of the spacers will allow you to create adequate spacing with minimal wheel dish required. You will have to add dish to your wheel. You may need to have the rear dropouts on your frame spread as well. A 126mm OLD (overlocknut distance) will allow you to use most 6 speed freewheels and maybe even some 7s if you are lucky.

As for going to 130mm - don't do this with a Campy hub. At 130mm the rear axle bearings on the drive side are pretty far from the dropout and the axle becomes very easy to break. Additionally, you'll probably have to re-lace the rear wheel to accomdate the much greater dishing required. Not recommended for "classic" bikes.

If you need gears lower than you can get with a Campy 42-28, may I suggest that you consider a set of TA cranks which are period correct for most classic bikes and readily available ? While they would not look right on a Masi or Pogliaghi, they are an excellent solution that provides lower gears while keeping the vintage spirit intact.

Good luck

========================== Mark Petry 206.618.9642 Beautiful Bainbridge Island, WA mpetry@bainbridgeisland.net

========================== "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits"

Albert Einstein ===========================

From: "David G. White" <whiteknight@adelphia.net> To: Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Putting a 6 or 7 speed freewheel on a 5 speed rear end

I fear the purists will be horrified, but as part of a restoration project this winter on what appears to be an early 80s Colnago Super frame, I'm thinking about using a 7 speed freewheel. Come on guys, give me a break! I live in Vermont where all rides are hilly and my middle aged legs really appreciate the extra gear ratios! Anyway, I'm looking for advice on how to do this.

I just purchased the frame. It can be seen at: http://ebay.com/<blah 22681&rd=1>. I know the rear stays may need to be spread slightly -- the frame arrived yesterday and I haven't had a chance to measure the existing width. Aside from that a few questions:

1) How careful do I need to be about which Campy hubs I use? Can I simply use any 6 or 7 speed hub with a 126mm width?

2) Is it possible to re-build an older 120mm Campy Record hub using a wider axle and some spacers? Will the 6 or 7 speed freewheels go on? Or is there a difference in the freewheel threading as well as the axle?

3) Does a Campy Nuovo Record rear derailleur have sufficient travel range to handle a 7 speed freewheel? How about the Super Record rear derailleur?

4) Are there other issues of which I should be aware?

Thanks!

David -- the impure -- White Burlington, VT

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Swap Meet Season (Tom Martin) 2. Re: Swap Meet Season (Bikeville) 3. Now: SF VeloSwap Saturday Was: Swap Meet Season (Chuck Schmidt) 4. Re: Swap Meet Season (Morgan Fletcher) 5. swap meet season (Craig Fenstermaker) 6. milremo handle bars 7. Re: eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot (Renaissance-Cycles) 8. "Vintage Huret rear der (Richard Reno) 9. Temporary Mail Cancellation (Doug Smith) 10. Chuck the Terminator (Mark Stevens) 11. Re: BVVW Nov. ride (John Pergolizzi) 12. Another new amazing auction... 13. pre swap meet rims and wheels offer 14. Re: eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot 15. Strollin' at the SF Veloswap 16. Re: Swap Meet Season 17. FS, NOS Normandy Hubs , Maillard (David Cowie) 18. Re: eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot (John Quigley)

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:05:13 -0800 From: "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com> To: "joel metz, ifbma/sfbma" <magpie@messengers.org>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Swap Meet Season Message-ID: <021b01c3aaeb$39d988e0$0a01a8c0@lobby> References: <20031114.104250.28395.808394@webmail05.lax.untd.com> <p06010240bbdad73cf709@[216.175.95.209]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1

I'll be there, walking, looking for 1 of 2 things:

a tiny 700c fixed frame, or a pair of 36h 650c clincher rims.

I have some stuff to sell/ trade, but not enough to plunk down for a booth.

I'll stop by and say hi to all CR'ers (or something like that)

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "joel metz, ifbma/sfbma"
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Swap Meet Season



> who else from the list is gonna be at veloswap up here?
>
> ill be running a booth with a couple other sf messenger types, one of
> who will have a bunch of used keirin parts and frames just brought
> back from japan, i think. ill post the booth # this evening when i get
> back from picking up our vendor passes and whatnot...
>
> im hoping to not spend much as well! ive even made up a little list of
> "things i am allowed to buy", mostly the last few things needed to
> build my frankentaylor up - but well see how well i hold to that. its
> never worked before :)
>
> -joel
>
> >We are making a road trip to Veloswap in SF tomorrow; hopefully I can
> >not spend a dime. Just going for grins and to hang with some friends.
> >Weather permitting, some of us vintage types will go for a ride on
> >Sunday before heading back south. Matt Gorski is driving up and
> >generously taking a few of us with him. Should be a great time for
> >everyone. Hope to see many Bay area folks at the swap.
> >
> >Brian Baylis
> >La Mesa, CA
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:26:52 -0500 From: Bikeville <Bikeville@erols.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Swap Meet Season Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031114152124.02d51420@pop.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2

hey guys, remember I will be there, all the way from Philadelphia. Stop by and say

hello and what nots. I'll be space 177. this little guy sorta looks like me, well maybe after a few beers. http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3561856/1066834116138_me.jpg Any rides this weekend in the area? Let me know when you see me. Also, I took some Photos of some of my bikes, they are on my webpage in the story section of the website. http://www.bikeville.com There's a Hetchins, Carlton, NOS 50's Paramount, Cambio Corsa Benotto, and I think a few more. I can't reach my prestine Ephgraves and some of my other bikes. thanks curtis cold philly, soon warm SF?

bikeville@erols.com http://www.bikeville.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:44:01 -0700 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Now: SF VeloSwap Saturday Was: Swap Meet Season Message-ID: <3FB5306A.49BE4468@earthlink.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20031114152124.02d51420@pop.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net Message: 3

Bikeville wrote:
>
> hey guys,
> remember I will be there, all the way from Philadelphia. Stop by and say
> hello and what nots. I'll be space 177.
> this little guy sorta looks like me, well maybe after a few beers.
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3561856/1066834116138_me.jpg
> Any rides this weekend in the area? Let me know when you see me.
> Also, I took some Photos of some of my bikes, they are on my webpage in the
> story section of the website.
> http://www.bikeville.com
> There's a Hetchins, Carlton, NOS 50's Paramount, Cambio Corsa Benotto, and
> I think a few more.
> I can't reach my prestine Ephgraves and some of my other bikes.
> thanks
> curtis
> cold philly, soon warm SF?
>
> bikeville@erols.com
> http://www.bikeville.com

There is supposed to be a ride on Sunday from American Cyclery (corner of Stanyan and Frederick Street) around 10 or 11am for the people in the area for VeloSwap. Weather prediction is mid low 60s with patchy clouds and sun (subject to change of course!).

Anyone have more details?

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:50:17 -0800 From: Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Swap Meet Season Message-ID: <87n0aywu7q.fsf@fletcher.sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <p06010240bbdad73cf709@[216.175.95.209]> (joel metz's message of "Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:05:50 -0800") References: <20031114.104250.28395.808394@webmail05.lax.untd.com> <p06010240bbdad73cf709@[216.175.95.209]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4

"joel metz, ifbma/sfbma" <magpie@messengers.org> writes:
> who else from the list is gonna be at veloswap up here?

I'll be there in the afternoon, with the family. Her cycling club (Velo Girls) has a booth.

My wife and I are gonna go to the Bob Roll / Graham Watson thing tonight.

Morgan Fletcher Oakland, CA ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:52:30 -0800 From: "Craig Fenstermaker" <CFenstermaker@cryogen-inc.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]swap meet season Message-ID: <31C73C08FC592E4DAD4E323CE987855A65CBA0@mailserv_1.sd.cryogen-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:05:50 -0800 From: "joel metz, ifbma/sfbma" <magpie@messengers.org>

who else from the list is gonna be at veloswap up here?

keep an eye out for Brian B and me. We'll be wearing "ASK ME ABOUT VINTAGE BICYCLE SPECIALTIES" t shirts.

see you there

craig

craig g. fenstermaker ams gynecology, ( formerly cryogen inc.) 10805 vista sorrento parkway san diego, ca 92121 858.450.7405 voice 858.775.0858 mobile 858.450.3417 fax

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:03:38 EST From: TonyFNitro@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]milremo handle bars Message-ID: <f5.3400e9e1.2ce69d2a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6

greetings

does anyone have a pair of milremo logoed handle bars for sale or trade.

thanks robbie fellows long beach,ca.

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:05:24 +0100 From: Renaissance-Cycles <info@renaissance-cycles.com> To: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <kctommy@msn.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot Message-ID: <005601c3aaf3$05c8b3c0$0100a8c0@warehouse> References: <BAY4-F329y8t0F1mmBN0000795e@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 7

Nice rig, but there are a few problems.

For sure the ''PEDALS!'' are low end. Crankset I would think should have been # 93, this crankset looks to be a # 106 or other with # 105 rings?........................But the forks I question because I've never seen a PX10 of this vintage with forks without Reynolds 531 stickers. Instead it has a sticker that is normally found on a lower end model. Also I don't think the hubs are period correct. Black rims, gold would have looked a lot better.........................Just my nickles worth!

On German ebay a few very nice and period correct Peugeots sold for a sing and a song! Problem, they didn't want to ship out of the country. And there was a pink Mercier as well, decked out with Campagnolo, same deal with this puppy.

OH WELL!

BC
Baron C...................And the gang!!
Renaissance cycles,
Eindhoven Holland!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr."
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [CR]eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot



> Anyone looking for the gold french parts to build up you Bernard Thevenet memorial machine? Started at $10 and no reserve. Wanta know why some folks get excited by "french style"? Take a look at this baby.
>
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> http://ebay.com/<blah> 298
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> If I buy it I'll strip the parts for my PX10. So someone outbid me and save me from myself. You can keep this Peugeot all together, but it is (Sacre Bleu!) black instead of the proper white or rose blush. Also, it's an all Reynolds bike, but the rear stays aren't 1/2 chrome. Again also, beware of the notorious Helicomatic rear hub.
>
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> What cranks did Bernard use in winning the TDF? He won in '76 and '78, right? Which model cranks are these?
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> Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0600 From: "Richard Reno" <renault68@hotmail.com> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]"Vintage Huret rear der Message-ID: <Law9-F57sd32HtkJJfY00009864@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8

I don't know why the price is so high on that Huret, but it sure looks like the one on my Lambert. Is that why Lambert had their legal problems? Richard Reno Green Bay (A.K.A Titletown) WI.

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:39 -0000 From: "Doug Smith" <doug@kingsweir.plus.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Temporary Mail Cancellation Message-ID: <000a01c3aaf4$992d97b0$91cfae51@usertmf38sji6p> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9

Hello Dale

Just a prior notice requesting you to cancel my listing mail from midnight next Sunday 17th November until Thursday 20th. Hope this does'nt inconvience you in any way but I shall be away from home for a few days Thanks for the service you supply I thoroughly enjoy reading it each evening. Best wishes Doug Smith North Dorset UK

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:37:39 -0000 From: "Mark Stevens" <mountgerald@btopenworld.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Chuck the Terminator Message-ID: <007c01c3aaf7$8f37f900$bff67ad5@DJN4ZQ0J> References: <CATFOODq6DqaJY4kJSF00000c1e@catfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10

Dale et al and Chuck! CR's no's 53, 55 and 58 all terminated on my screen with Chucks' message and refuse to show the rest of the digest. Has anyone else had this problem? Mark Stevens mystified in Dingwall, Scotland

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:01:11 -0500 From: "John Pergolizzi" <jtperry@worldnet.att.net> To: <brianbaylis@juno.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]BVVW Nov. ride Message-ID: <00bd01c3aafb$53b463b0$fb994b0c@D1KBTP11> References: <20031104.002228.17394.603866@webmail13.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11

Dear listees, In The Omnipotent Despots ever continuing quest to accommodate certain American framebuilders; I have, in my nearly Divine wisdom, decree a special BVVW ride tomorrow Saturday Nov. 15, 2003 in Prospect Park Brooklyn N.Y. Meet at 10:00 a.m. at The Grecian Shelter (located adjacent to Parkside Ave. Enter in to The Park via the Coney Island Ave. entrance and go right (counter clockwise). The Shelter is a one story , multi columned open air building about 500 yards up on the right). Ride will be about 2 hours. Round and round . Repeat. No cars. Fixed gear friendly. Lots of b.s.ing. So come and be cold and be happy!

John T.Pergolizzi
New York City, N.Y.
BVVW


----- Original Message -----
From: brianbaylis@juno.com
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Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]BVVW Nov. meeting



>
>
> Damn it John!
>
> I wish you would give me more notice for these friggin' meetings. You know I have to SWIM there! I know, I get to cut through the Panama Canal; but don't forget I've got this Cinelli track bike on my back. You GOTTA see this baby with the 148 inch gear! It's the SEXIEST track bike on the planet (well maybe not) but you will blow a gasket, I swear!
>
> Is there a boat ramp near there somewhere that I can use to get out of the water? Chances are I will be a little bit tired. You know some girl had her arm bit off by a shark in Hawaii the other day, don't you? I hope you appreciate what I'm going through for you. That steak had better be worth it; and I think I'll have my beer warm thank you. The water is getting a bit chilly this time of year.
>
> The next meeting I'm going to crawl there backwards on my hands and knees; any chance you might reconsider an even SHORTER notice next time? Give it some thought. More notice please.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:13:09 EST From: OROBOYZ@aol.com To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Another new amazing auction... Message-ID: <ba.49c3043f.2ce6ad75@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12

I don't think, by "outing" this item, that I will hurt anyone's chances at sneaking in and grabbing this auction item cheap!

http://ebay.com/<blah>

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:47 EST From: NortonMarg@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]pre swap meet rims and wheels offer Message-ID: <7f.3f2e4344.2ce6aec7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13

I figure it would be polite to make an offer of some of my vintage rims and wheels to the list, before I take them to the VeloSwap in San Francisco tomorrow. If you can, please let me know by tonight so I can set them aside! Everything is plus shipping or you can pick it up.

Clincher rims are marked, everything else is sew up. No skewers unless otherwise noted.

1) Pair- Campy Record low flange 36 hubs laced to Super Champion Arc en Ciel rims, 3X ss spokes, no skewers. $70

2)Pair- Victory? low flange 36 hubs - Victory Strada rims, 3X ss spokes, no skewers. $60

3) Record low flange 36 front wheel - Arc en Ciel, rustless spokes, no skewer. $30

4) Sunshine ProAm black, rear, 36 hub - Fiamme new label Ergal, rustless 4X, no skewer. $30

5) Suzue hub, Mavic MA2 36 hole silver clincher rim, new label. $25 gets you the rim, the hub and spokes come with it. No skewer.

6) Mavic G40 (gray) clincher rim only, 36. Braking flats are mostly silver, rim appears straight. $15.

7) Pair! Alloy 27" clincher rims in 32 x 40. Unmarked, non box section, there is an extra "bead" as part of the extrusion in the corner for added strength. $40

8) Pair- Normandy Luxe Competition 36 hubs laced to Milremo Record Route

rims. 3X ss, no skewers. $60

9) Record low flange 36 front wheel, Super Champion Record du Monde rim, 3X butted ss, no skewer $35

10) Hi E med flange rear 6 speed 36 wheel with Mavic gold Record du Monde de L'Heure rim. The braking flats are silver. There is a separate rim that was the front (someone got the hub) that looks very straight. No Skewer. $65.

11) Pair- GPM low flange 36 laced to Mavic (red and black label) Monthlery Route rims. Straight but with rusty spokes. Regina 14-24 freewheel with one corner just a tiny bid smushed. With skewers. $65

12) Shimano 600 LF rear 36, laced to Mavic E2 clincher rim with the old red and green label. No skewer, $30 (priced for the rim)

13) Williams steel crank with 49/52 rings. Decent, some rust $25.

14) Suntour Perfect freewheel. 14-12-21-26-32. Teeth are excellent. $10.

As far as I know, everything is usably straight, if not, no worries. Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:32 EST From: DTSHIFTER@aol.com To: kctommy@msn.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot Message-ID: <1cf.147c381f.2ce6aeb8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14

In a message dated 11/14/03 1:33:44 PM, kctommy@msn.com writes:

<< What cranks did Bernard use in winning the TDF? He won in '76 and '78, right? Which model cranks are these? >>

Tom,

Thevenet won the Tour in '75 & '77. I have a team picture from '75 and it does appear the cranksets were Stronglight 93's. In '76 however, it is clear the bcd is not 122 and the cranks do appear to be 105's with drilled chainrings.

That eBay Peugeot appears to have a Stronglight 99 crankset. The bcd is not 144!!

Cheers,

Chuck Brooks Malta, NY ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:20:53 -0800 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: classics rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Strollin' at the SF Veloswap Message-ID: <1068848453.3fb5554579ac7@webmail.lmi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 15

I am quite heartened to see lots of 'me toos' regarding attendance at the swap meet tomorrow. I was worried it would mostly be mtb stuff and racer boy stuff and not enough vintage and road stuff. I'll be there from 9 til 1 most likely. Hope to bump into folks at Joel's booth or where other CR types might be setting up shop. I look on this swap meet being as much a chance to find a few parts as it is a bike oriented social event.

rob hawks richmond, ca ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:23:36 EST From: NortonMarg@aol.com To: magpie@messengers.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Swap Meet Season Message-ID: <19c.1cb7c14b.2ce6afe8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16

Bob Freitas and Stevan Thomas will be sharing a booth space! Come on buy!...er, by! Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:29:19 -0700 From: David Cowie <recycle@wmni.net> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]FS, NOS Normandy Hubs , Maillard Message-ID: <3FB5492E.D24D892C@wmni.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 17

Offer for sale to the list; new old stock Maillard Normandy hubs;

1. pair of Normandy high flange, 36 ø , QR front, nutted rear. includes skewer and Box NOS $45 , delivered.

2. front Normandy Sport, silky smooth, high flange, 36ø QR w/ skewer and Box, NOS $30 , delivered.

3. front Normandy , QR axle, no skewer, 36ø, $15 delivered

4.red lable Normandy Luxe Competition, 36ø, looks near new but there is evidence of it being laced, lable perfect, very shiny, QR, no skewer. $24 delivered.

5. Gold lable Normandy Luxe Competition's , two fronts, 36ø, both look near new but have been laced , lable is good on one and so-so on the other, no skewers, both for $44 delivered.

These all sat in a dry warehouse for over 20 years, new grease would be prudent.

Paypal friendly.

David Cowie Sutherlin, Oregon rain starting, must be the weekend

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:34:17 -0800 (PST) From: John Quigley <johnquigley1965@yahoo.com> To: Renaissance-Cycles <info@renaissance-cycles.com>, "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <kctommy@msn.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot Message-ID: <20031114223417.33350.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <005601c3aaf3$05c8b3c0$0100a8c0@warehouse> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18

I have seen a Peugeot that is black with chrome fork ends but unchromed rear & it was all Reynolds 531 frame & forks It had an ideale 2001 saddle probably from 1979. Nice bike.

John Quigley OKC, OK Too many Peugeots: Bikes, cars & moped (:

Renaissance-Cycles <info@renaissance-cycles.com> wrote: Nice rig, but there are a few problems.

For sure the ''PEDALS!'' are low end. Crankset I would think should have been # 93, this crankset looks to be a # 106 or other with # 105 rings?........................But the forks I question because I've never seen a PX10 of this vintage with forks without Reynolds 531 stickers. Instead it has a sticker that is normally found on a lower end model. Also I don't think the hubs are period correct. Black rims, gold would have looked a lot better.........................Just my nickles worth!

On German ebay a few very nice and period correct Peugeots sold for a sing and a song! Problem, they didn't want to ship out of the country. And there was a pink Mercier as well, decked out with Campagnolo, same deal with this puppy.

OH WELL!

BC
Baron C...................And the gang!!
Renaissance cycles,
Eindhoven Holland!


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From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr."
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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [CR]eBay; Thevenet Parts/ 22 inch Peugeot



> Anyone looking for the gold french parts to build up you Bernard Thevenet memorial machine? Started at $10 and no reserve. Wanta know why some folks get excited by "french style"? Take a look at this baby.
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> If I buy it I'll strip the parts for my PX10. So someone outbid me and save me from myself. You can keep this Peugeot all together, but it is (Sacre Bleu!) black instead of the proper white or rose blush. Also, it's an all Reynolds bike, but the rear stays aren't 1/2 chrome. Again also, beware of the notorious Helicomatic rear hub.
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> What cranks did Bernard use in winning the TDF? He won in '76 and '78, right? Which model cranks are these?
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