Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment

(Example: Framebuilders:Tubing)

From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>, "Taylor, Martin" <martin_taylor@juno.com>, "Nelson, Dan" <nelsond@Vision-Ease.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:35:53 -0600


True Temper Tubing for bicycles , I know how at least most of it was done , in the 1980's . How it's done now , I don't know .

Back then , True Temper was quite open with the information that yes , it had been seamed , but no , it was no longer seamed .

Basically , they made seamed tubing , with very thick walls , and then re-heated it to a soft state , worked with it a great deal , and produced tubing with NO detectable traces of a seam in it !

The end product was seamless . Microscopic metallurgical analysis could detect no trace of a seam .

So , at some early point in manufacture , the tubing was seamed . However , by the time it was a finished product , it was seamless .

It's all about how much you manipulate the "grain structure" of the metal . If you melt a forging , it's not a forging anymore . If you forge a casting , it's not merely a casting anymore . Etc.

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas


----- Original Message -----
From: Wolfman231@aol.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment



> In a message dated 11/11/03 8:44:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> joebz@optonline.net writes:
>
>
> > Seamed tubing can be just as good as unseamed tubing. In the cycling
> > business seamed tubing usually equals cheap tubing. That being said, any
> > tubing that splits is a bummer!
>
>
> Isn't True Temper tubing seamed?
>
> Ed Kasper
> Detroit MI