Re: [CR]Campagnolo box timeline attempt...

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:38:36 -0500
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo box timeline attempt...
To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Please guys- you are giving the Campagnolo box counterfeiting rings far to much information.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Schmidt
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:39 PM
Subject: [CR]Campagnolo box timeline attempt...



> A recent auction on a Campagnolo headset in a dark blue box prompted the
> following post to me from John Barron about dates for the different packaging:
>
> =======================================================================
> John Barron wrote:
> This is very sketchy to me- I don't know that I know what I'm talking
> about!!!
>
> I think that for the most part, the dark blue box was the earliest box
> used for many of their parts- cambio corsa set, pedals, hubs, headsets,
> etc. I have seen these boxes for all of these parts, and maybe some
> others. The hiccup here is the VERY early box that Pergolizzi has that
> is a yellowed white with blue letters. For all we know, a distributor
> had boxes made up for the Campy parts they sold... There's also the
> green Campy HS box on HI Campy's site...
>
> Anyway, dark blue with gold lettering was first from, I suppose the
> early 50's, (1950?, 1951?) to perhaps the late 50's, (1958?, 1959?).
> There were obviously a lot of variations such as the darker blue
> cottered BB box that has world champ stripes on it. You know best when
> that was introduced... There were some HS boxes that were either light
> blue with darker blue lettering, or gray with the same lettering from
> about 1960 until perhaps the late 60's. At that point It seems like the
> more modern style of Record boxes came around which were basically pale
> yellow/tan with world champ stripes. If the Record brake calipers were
> 1968, or 1969, then perhaps these boxes were intro'd at that time,
> except we have examples of the earliest Nuovo Record rear der boxes from
> 1966, 1967, 1968 that had them, so I guess that's a better measure. As
> you know, these boxes started with an uncoated finish, and then moved to
> the coated stock in about 1969 I think.
>
> My best and only reference is from what I have, and have seen, and while
> I've seen a lot, there's others who have seen more, or at least have
> seen different stuff. We need to rely on faith a bit that the correct
> parts were in the correct box...
> ========================================================================
>
> Does anyone else out there on the CR list have any idea of the dates and
> changes to the Campagnolo packaging?
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California

>

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