Re: [CR]re: Re: Info needed for U. Testi bike

(Example: Framebuilding)

Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:35:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [CR]re: Re: Info needed for U. Testi bike
To: Newag@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <21F6D6A2.020E58E4.0000FDAA@aol.com>


My comment or thought is that it is also possible the Swedish dude (Harry Snell) was on an Italian bike in 1948. Back then, many foreign amateurs/national teams were provided with bikes from Italian makers due to the lack of high quality frames in some far away places. For example, Giovanni Pelizolli provided Ciocc frames to the Polish Olympic/National Team for many years. My Ciocc has two decals on it refering to the Worlds: 1st San Cristobal (Claudio Corti, Amatuer Champ) and 2nd, Nurburgring (?).

Also, the rules for putting Worlds stripes/decals on bikes were somewhat strictly enforced. So there was some basis for your decals...but which Worlds (Track, Road Elite, Amateur, U23, women, etc).

Giacomo Bellora Falls Church, VA

Newag@aol.com wrote: In fact, the writing on my Testi is much more specific: it says "Vincitore Campionato del Mondo 1948." Although this might address Steven's comments, it then raises other questions given what Angel cites in terms of the 1948 winner being Swedish. The writing about 1947 is worked into the headbadge itself, and says "Campione del Mondo 1947." It's certainly interesting to see the two terms being used on the same bike at the same time, i.e. "Vincitore Campionato..." and "Campione..." Might it be fair to assume that they meant different things, e.g. that one would refer to the individual race winner, and the other to a member of the winning team? Or were the terms perhaps interchangeable? Surely someone in the broader CR universe can shed light on this?

Jonathan Agnew Darien, CT

In a message dated 12/8/2003 3:08:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org writes:
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:41:43 -0500
> From: "Angel M Garcia"
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> An Italian did win the U23 1947 road race:
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> 1947 - France - Reims - 164km
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> FERRARI, Alfio (ITA) PEDRONI, S. (ITA) VAN BEEK, G. (NED)
> 1948 - Pays-Bas - Valkenburg - 186km
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> SNELL, Harry (SWE) LERNO, L. (BEL) WANLUND, Olle (SWE)
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> If the formatting doesn't come across well: Alfio Ferrari
> of Italy was the
> 1947 U23 road race winner.
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> Angel Garcia
> Long Valley, NJ _______________________________________________

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