Re: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups

(Example: Component Manufacturers)

Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:29:58 -0500
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups
To: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>, jerrymoos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <20031211140212.62730.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com>


Err- make that left hand threaded cup.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Rafael Rednor
To: Joe Bender-Zanoni


<jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>; <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups


> Joe,
> It would be a bit strange to mark the left side cup (i.e.
> the adjustable one) to distinguish between Swiss and French
> threading. This is because that cup is the same for both
> types. The difference is in the fixed cup on the right side of
> the bottom bracket which is left hand threadedfor the Swiss
> style.
> In my (sad) experience, those cups often have markings that
> aren't so obvious - e.g. a "band" machined into the face of the
> cup. If the Sugino cup is marked on the left side cup, it's
> beyond being un-Sugino. It's patently silly.
> Cheers,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
>
> --- Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> wrote:
> > There was a marking but I forget it. A simple stamped
> > letter on the left cup.. Very un-Sugino to just take
> > the letter die and give it a whack to indicate Swiss.
> >
> > Joe Bender-Zanoni
> > Great Notch,NJ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>;
> > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:27 PM
> > Subject: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups
> >
> >
> > > Were they marked differently? Some European-made Swiss
> > fixed cup are
> > marked
> > > "G" or "S" denoting the left hand thread.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
> > > To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>;
> > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:40 PM
> > > Subject: Sugino Swiss Cups
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yep, Sugino made Swiss threaded cups. I had them on a
> > Mondia built "Tour
> > > de
> > > > Suisse".
> > > >
> > > > Joe Bender-Zanoni
> > > > Great Notch, NJ
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > To: "chuck taylor" <phatswag@comcast.net>;
> > > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>;
> > > > "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CR]help! zeus w/ 35xP1 bb threads
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree with Sheldon, never heard of a Swiss-threaded
> > Zeus, plus I'm
> > not
> > > > > sure Sugino ever made Swiss BB cups.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry Moos
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> > > > > To: "chuck taylor" <phatswag@comcast.net>;
> > > > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CR]help! zeus w/ 35xP1 bb threads
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > charles taylor wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >My zeus has a bad fixed bb cup that I need to remove
> > but don't know
> > > the
> > > > > > >handed-ness of the thread. The sugino bb cups both
> > say 35xP1, which
> > > > I've
> > > > > > >never heard of.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 35 x 1 designates both French and Swiss threading,
> > the difference
> > > > > > being in the "handedness" of the fixed cup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > French fixed cups=right (wrong)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Swiss fixed cups=left (right)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've never heard of Zeus using Swiss, I'd bet it's
> > French,
> > > > > > righty-tighty on both sides.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheldon "Strictly Speaking, Possibly" Brown
> > > > > >
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