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> 1. Re: 3RENSHO: how rare, anyway? (Brandon Ives)
> 2. Phil bbs...was on BB axle material (HM & SS Sachs)
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> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 09:08:52 -0800
> From: Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com>
> To: chasds@mindspring.com
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> Subject: Re: [CR]3RENSHO: how rare, anyway?
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> On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 10:02 PM, chasds@mindspring.com wrote:
>> Anyway, my question is this: how rare is a bike like this, anyway?
>
> I don't think they're all that rare, though their distribution in the
> US has been on and off over the years. I think most of the bikes that
> made it over the Pacific were track bikes. In Japan they're quite
> common. From the little bits and pieces I've picked up they've been
> around since the mid-to-late 70s and have has anywhere from 2-6 people
> working at any time. I don't think they've made more than a few
> hundred frames a year, but that number multiplied by 25 or so years is
> quite a few bikes.
>
> I've always liked their bikes and find them to be as well built as any
> of the best European bikes during the same time. The US high end bike
> buyer during the "classic" era was biased against Japanese built bikes
> because that is in their eyes where all the "mass-market" bikes are
> built. This image keeps with us today, but is slowly breaking down.
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> SB, CA
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> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 13:18:40 -0500
> From: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com>
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> Subject: [CR]Phil bbs...was on BB axle material
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> Bryant Bainbridge wrote some neat things about Specialized, but I'll
> snip that to get to the Phil stuff:
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> "But I do have a suggestion. Why don't you simply call Phil
> Wood? They used to be quite flexible about making special parts and they
> have a great track record with their BBs."
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> Just for the record for those of us who occasionally find Phil BBs of
> vintage age, about a few gnarly limbs in the Phil BB tree:
>
> Early on, Phil cut a sharp groove for a snap ring as the bearing
> locator. These spindles were reported to fail in torsion at the snap
> ring groove, which acted as a stress riser.
>
> A few years later, Phil went to a lovely integrated unit which did NOT
> have interchangeable cartridge bearings. I have only seen this once,
> and it looked neat, but it does not seem to allow bearing replacements.
>
> Most of the ones I've owned on various tandems and such have used press
> fit aluminum sleeves as bearing locators; it is pretty easy to change
> the cartridge bearings on these.
>
> Your mileage may vary...
>
> harvey sachs
> mcLean va
>
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