[CR]Bidding on eBay with no intention of winning an auction?

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Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 13:12:08 -0400
From: "Gary Chottiner" <gsc2@po.cwru.edu>
Subject: [CR]Bidding on eBay with no intention of winning an auction?
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Organization: Case Western Reserve University


It looks like I hit a hot button with my comment about bidding on eBay with no intention of winning the auction. A few others have already explained much of the logic, but let me expand.

The primary reason I started this was that there are often 50-100 items that catch my attention but eBay only let us watch 20, now 30, items. I actually complained to eBay about this artificially low number. Putting in a low (generally the lowest possible) early bid is the easiest way to follow a larger number of pieces. I generally look for items as they are posted and not when the auction is about to expire, as this gives me time to think about the purchase and catch the Buy It Now items before they are bought. So I don’t think I’m jacking up the prices, which is the last thing I'd want to do as a buyer. Even if I was, the sellers wouldn’t mind, only the buyers! As a courtesy to both buyers and sellers, I’ll generally try NOT to bid if I suspect that I will hit a reserve and cause the Buy It Now option to disappear for other buyers.

I’m also perfectly willing to buy the things on which I place bids, but I know that realistically this won’t happen as most of us know their market value. I think in two or so years of buying things on eBay, I’ve only ‘won’ a handful of items that I would have preferred to lose. You can almost always count on someone else to come in as a sniper at the last minute if they think you might be getting a bargain.

Now if there’s something I really do want or something that’s too expensive and valuable to gamble on coming out the winner, those are the items that go on the Watch List. It seems that the only way to win an auction on eBay is to bid in the last few seconds. I learned this the hard way, as do most of us, losing some very good items to snipers. You could make a good case that sniping keeps the prices down. The auctions that end up in the stratosphere are those where a few select (wealthy) bidders keep one-upping each other for several days.

My policy for trying to win eBay auctions is to enter a bid, as late as I dare, that is just high enough that I won’t regret the purchase. If someone bids more, I’m relieved not to be the winner. If I do win, it feels like a fair price. I think that I probably end up as second highest bidder on 80% of the auctions I try to win, further down the list on 15% and win no more than 5% of the time. So now you have all my secrets.

I think a better way to purchase bicycle components is to do it from the people who list them here but I’ve been trying for some time to pick up a selection of items for use on some special projects. Over the next few weeks I’ll be asking for advice for which pieces to use on the black Ephgrave #1 and green #2 frames that you can see at http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Ephgrave_main.htm as well as a modern Bates. I think all three of these frames came from list members. Then there’s a question about brakes, saddle and crankset for a NOS! late 50’s Paramount which seems to have the correct parts except for these items. I’ll be writing more about this when I can get organized to deal with it.

Am I using too many words? I have that reputation.

Gary Chottiner aka pedal-professor
Cleveland Hts. OH