I also love other & newer bikes than my meager collection of "classics," but that still doesn't make them on-topic for the Classic Rendezvous. I'd be willing to bet that the same is true for a large majority of listees: I like bikes, all kinds of bikes. Bet you do too! I like indexing, and have it: even on "on-topic" bikes (the horror!) ;-) e-RITCHIE's bikes are all on-topic, and (correct me if I'm wrong, bro!) they're almost all set up with modern gear. It's not supposed to be an "all-or-none" thing, but it's not an open house, either. The CR is for a certain kind of bike, the vintage/classic (new or old) lightweight, ie handmade, high-quality diamond-framed "safety" road bicycle, and the riding, racing, and upkeep thereof.
In any event, Bruce reminded us of our benevolent host's notion of why he opens his home to us: The Canon Dale.
Thanks, Dale!
Dennis Ryan Louisville, KY
PS I'm pleased by this vigorous discussion of the list's purpose and future. It's gratifying that so many (me included) believe we'll all be doing this for years and decades to come, given the opportunity. What's the 25th Anniversary Cirque gonna be like? Hope I'm there!
D.
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of James "Giacomo" Bellora Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:51 AM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Cannin' 'Dales
Personally all this classic discussion is quite humorous to me. Sorry maybe it's an age thingie. I certainly am in love with my 1982 Ciocc but I am equally in love with my 1999 DeRosa Planet (7003 Alu). I guess I can somewhat understand this romantic notion of what is classic based on some (rather) arbritary definitions. But personally as a bike racer I am wow'd my not only by the looks (who isn't?) but performance above all. What I think is awesome has been the innovation over the years. Racers demand innovation and and edge. Don't be silly, bike builders were not simply creating an artisitic esthetic, they were in a business to put pasta on the table for mamma and i figlie. Innovations are trickle down....pros demand new stuff and then builders pass it down so us bike lusters can have it (and the builders can pay for the R & D).
I have great love and memories for my "beer can" cannondales (the bike you guys love to trash). Actually I have had 3 of 'em (TT bike, Track, Road) and for racing their stiffness, responsiveness, and lightweight were/are fantastic. Their acceleration is unbelievable. So my love is not so much how it was made but the end result...how it raced. When I ride my '82 Ciocc time machine I love it but I can't imagine racing it after experiencing clipless pedals, STI shifting, hi-zoot wheels, and super light frames (not to mention hitech fabrics for jerseys, chamois, and super shoes of today).
Each era will be remembered for the innovations of the age fondly by those who are emotionally tied to that time frame. All eras will be classic eventually.
Giacomo Bellora Falls Church, VA
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