Re: [CR]Soliciting Zeus Comments

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

From: "Donald F. Dunstan" <donalddunstan@wtconnect.com>
To: <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <CATFOOD0RrDEUjb9oBs00003079@catfood.nt.phred.org> <005901c36653$654f2430$efddfea9@mooshome> <001001c366b8$aa5700b0$efddfea9@mooshome> <3F42FDFC.C835E51D@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Soliciting Zeus Comments
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:28:52 -0500


I never considered the Simplex designs to be copies of Campagnolo. When I think of copies, I think of the Sugino Mity Competition crankset as a copy of Campagnolo Nouvo Record; virtually every detail identical. I think, and my memory is not as clear as some on this list, that the MKS pedals were a Campagnolo copy in that virtually all the parts were interchangeable with Campagnolo Nouvo Record. I think implementing/imitating new design concepts and copying are two different things.

Don D.


----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Schmidt
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Soliciting Zeus Comments



> Jerry Moos wrote:
> >
> > (I) Don't think Simplex ever copied Campy. Or if they did ...
>
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>
> 1951 Campagnolo Gran Sport
> http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Mountain/8676/celeste2000/51GSrd1.jpg
>
> 1961 Simplex Juy Export 61
> <http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Mountain/8676/celeste2000/SimplexJuyExp ort61-1.jpg>
>
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>
> 1970s Campagnolo Super Record
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/Italian/Camp_75SR2.jpg
>
> 1970s Simplex LJ 4000 CP
> http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors/4932/brands/SimplexLj4000.jpg
>
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>
> 1978 Campagnolo Super Record
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/Italian/82sr_1.jpg
>
> 1978 Simplex SLJ 5000 CP
> <http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Mountain/8676/brands/SimplexSLJ5000.jpg
>
>
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>
> Jerry, I just remembered that you have described yourself many times now
> as being a contrarian, so I bet I wasted my time gathering these photos
> for you.
>
> Chuck "slapping my forehead with the palm of my hand... DOH!" Schmidt

> South Pasadena, CA

>

> .