Re: [CR]Weird ebay description Subj: - Item #3650483019 , am I nuts?

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:12:53 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: "wspokes" <wspokes@penn.com>
To: NortonMarg@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Weird ebay description Subj: - Item #3650483019 , am I nuts?


Wild emails...I would let it pass...Same guy has Onza HO pedals listed as some of the BEST of Onza...those pedals were the anti-christ of clipless pedal systems. I practically couldn't give them away!

Walt Skrzypek Falls Creek, Pa

-----Original Message----- From: NortonMarg@aol.com Sent: Jan 5, 2004 1:19 AM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Weird ebay description Subj: - Item #3650483019 , am I nuts?

I thought this sellers hyperbole was over the top, and thought I politely told him so. Check out his response. Am I nuts or is he full of it? He's blocked email from me...

Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA

<<Subj: Re: Question for seller --Item #3650483019 Date: 1/4/04 9:27:33 PM Pacific Standard Time From: VeloHoward To: NortonMarg

In a message dated 1/1/2004 10:07:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, nortonmarg@aol.com writes:
> Howard,
> This style of derailleur was made from about 1961 to 1979. It was NOT
> "pulled". They were perfectly safe and are required for the pre 1979 cranks because
> those cranks have less distance between the ring and the arm. That gap was
> widened to accommodate the lip in 1979, and the bottom bracket axles were
> changed accordingly. You're laying it on pretty thick for what amounts to a
> pretty common derailleur. The really early ones that were made with a cable stop
> for external cable housing are not even worth your BIN price, with this one,
> you're way high, and the hyperbole isn't helping your credibility.
> Stevan Thomas

Stevan -

I write based on what I have read via Campagnolo and US based US Consumer Protection Agency rulings for the day were stated as.

Before you go repremanding my auction - I'm sure you have way better things to do with your time then to write to me without 100% factual evidence to the contrary.  Somehow I believe the legal writings on this subject and subsequent legal issues that Campy had to go through for the US government - has never crossed your desk at any point in your life - or I'm sure you would have stated such facts in your broad and tasteless email.

Please go bother someone else who can be bullied around with your bullshit and I'll write I what I have documented evidence about - pure and simple.  I don't have time to educate you on something that I've summized down to a near soundbite of on info based on my 30+ years in the business, extensive knowledge of US trade issues with European importers, US Consumer Protection Agency document going over years of legal information, etc.

Please don't waste your important time either emailing me your "opinion" - nor please DO NOT bid, buy, insult, or even waste your time with any of my auctions.>>