In a message dated 1/21/04 3:02:39 AM, brianbaylis@juno.com writes:
> There are plenty of bikes with crappy striping and a few where the stripes
> really add something to the end results; the trick is knowing when and where
> to do it and makeing sure the craftsmanship is of the same high standards as
> the frame and the rest of the paint job. A Masi with pinstriped lugs doesn't
> cut it (except for the early Specials with Chromed Nervex Pro lugs) and a
> Hetchins in one color and no striping is kind of anti climatic, in my opinion.
> The key is always quality.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> Never say always, except sometimes.
>
> -- Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Gary Chottiner wrote:
> >
> > My '72 chrome P15, which is 'almost' NOS, does not have the red lug
> > outlining, although I noticed that the P13 that Dale shows on the CR site
> > does have it. I agree that lug outlining looks attractive and not only on
> > these all-chrome bikes. A significant reason for my enjoyment of lugged
> > frames is the visual aspect - and a solid color over everything diminishes
> > the effect. (Anyone on this list care to disagree?)
>
>
> Yes, I guess I have to disagree with you. Lug outlining is only used to
> make up for the lack of really pristine craftsmanship in my opinion.
>
> Picture of the chrome Paramount:
> http://twistcomm.com/
>
> Steve Barner pointed out, "He (the pinstriper) doesn't just highlight
> the lugs to accent them, he redraws them as they would be IF they were
> perfectly formed..." (my emphasis)
>
> The lug outlining is an unwanted distraction. A solid color over
> everything FORCES you to examine the lug shorline and lug thining.
>
> I have two great examples of solid colored bikes that exhibit lug
> perfection. A mid-70s Peter Johnson with Prugnat lugs and a mid-70s
> Wizard (Baylis/Howard) with Nervex lugs, both painted solid green.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
Hey, Southern Cal guys, many thanks for interesting discussion!
Now, I came up another question regarding "LUG" finish and accessories.
The Nervex Pro that I have on all chrome Paramount is almost "melt down" finish so that there is no room for outlining I think. This I mean that the lug are file down so that end is almost fsing into tubes.
Meanwhile, some other lugs are so thick ( I do not know how to distinguish "cast" or "pressed" etc.), and tall. And, edges are not milled/filed dwon, and very sharp. Some are somwhere between. Some are chromed and thin.
So, my question is; which is better or proper for lug to be relatively thick for protection of joints, or very thin to be more ornamnetal?
As my Jack Taylor, I used to have many lugless frames, so I am leaning about beauty-function of lugs!
KEN TODA, High Point, NC, COOLLDD 16' in Southeast!