Larry,
These were very popular in Southern Cal in the late
1960's. Don't be surprised if there's a sticker on
that Carlton from Dandy's, Hans Ohrt, or Harding's,
all Los Angeles stores that sold those bikes. Racers
didn't ride them often (did see Audrey McElmury on a
white Flyer track bike once) but tourists did.
Usually eqiuipped thusly: Campy or STronglight crank,
Campag Record derailleurs (or Record front Huret Luxe
rear) Weinmann brakes, Campy hubs/Weinmann dimpled 27"
al rims.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA
> Greetings campers and future Anglo-phobes
>
> Thanks to my pal Tom Hayes, who ventured out even
> farther than I did to
> rendezvous at Westminster, I am now spending an
> inordinate amount quality time
> with my "new" love interest, a Carlton Flyer frame.
> Coffee brown, fading
> irregularly into something else a little more orange
> in the sunlight that I
> won't even begin to try to describe, lots of chrome,
> lots of patina, I
> like it
> a lot. Campy dropouts, Carlton Special lugs w /
> triangular cutouts (similar to
> the 72 Raleigh Pros), brazed-on shifter bosses, a
> brazed on cable housing
> stop
> on the downtube for an old Campy front der with the
> integral cable housing
> stop. Also the typical bridge gizmo across the seat
> stays supporting a cable
> housing stop for centerpull brakes. "Carlton" decal
> on the downtubes is in
> script lettering, not block letters, but I have
> detected no pattern to that
> particular detail. Not quite the Carlton
> International I still lust heavily
> for, but close enough for now. Pictures available on
> request.
>
> Serial V4139. Not certain what the "V" means in the
> serial number. With
> uncharacteristic optimism I had hoped maybe Carlton
> used the same system for
> both Raleighs and Carltons. Silly me. Maybe it is
> the same system (making it
> maybe a 1961), but a strong scientific background
> and too many encounters with
> Raleighs prevent me from extrapolating that far back
> from known data without
> some sort of evidence. Somebody please, send me a
> data point!! This one
> doesn't
> appear in any of the on-line Carlton catalogs. In
> the 68-70 catalogs the Flyer
> was available as a track frame only. This frame,
> and a couple others I
> remember for sale in years past were definitely road
> bikes. Components that
> were on the frame prior to my acquisition were
> predominantly Campy Record.
> Nothing Nuovo Record, so that fits in with the
> 1960s. Does anybody have a clue
> what year this frame might really be? Any
> assistance/suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Larry "was Retro Raleighs, now appearing as Carlton
> Curmudgeon" Osborn
> Bruceton Mills, WV
>
> Or perhaps Carlton Cadavers? Carlton Carcasses?
> Crusty Carltons? Creaky
> Carltons? Carbon-dated Carltons?
>
>
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