Hello everybody I am pretty new to this group and my spelling is horrendous and a lot of the bicycle words are not in the spell check so please bare with me. This is in response to the gluing of tubular tires. I had a small pamphlet printed by Clemont tires and it said to glue it like this. First put the tire on the rim by pre stretching them I always found hooking them over my thigh and my foot and pushing out with my leg was more then enough force then needed. After you hear a few pops from the base tape put the valve in the rim first then put the wheel in front of you sideways and grab the tire not the rim and start working your way around the rim. When you get to the bottom the tire would feel too small but that was normal. By the way newer tires seem to be made of some Polymer or other and will go all the way on now because they stretch so much. But, if you now have this tire part of the way on grab the rim now too and flip the wheel over. Now put the wheel between your legs and start to lift or pry the tire the last few inches on to the rim and pump it up then check it for being straight. If all went well go hang it out of they way. Now we go on to gluing. After a day or so pull it off and try it a few times again to see if you can do it with out too much fanfare. Then you can pull off the tire and start to pump it up off the rim and the tire will start to turn itself over until the base tape is up and the rubber tread in down on the floor. Smear a thin layer of glue on the base tape now and a tin layer on the rim. Let the air out of the tire and hang it up out of the way. Wait until they dry, it can take up to a day, and put on another layer of glue on both and let dry again. Now the fun part put it on the rim buy that method you now have done a few times and make sure the tire is straight and wait another day and go ride. See it is not too hard. Have fun Steven Willis Form The Bike Stand in NJ