Re: [CR]Packing Charges + Vigilantilism

(Example: Framebuilders:Doug Fattic)

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:40:29 +0100 (MET)
From: "kim klakow" <Akimbo71@gmx.net>
To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
References: <0adf01c3f9b3$8d98a800$efddfea9@mooshome>
Subject: Re: [CR]Packing Charges + Vigilantilism
cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

> I hope the buyer checked the shipping before bidding and did not get a
> nasty
> surprise. If not, he would be completely within his rights to refuse to
> complete the transaction and to file a complaint of seller fruad with
> eBay.

No, he would not. The seller states what you need to do, and if you don´t that is your mistake and nothing to go to ebay crying about. Where do you see fraud? Fraud has to do with the article for sale, and if that if as he says, ... no fraud! You did the right thing you checked and found it to be too high and didn´t bid. Good for you. Maybe the winning bidder thinks this shipping fee is just OK. Maybe he politely mailed the seller and said:" I´ll take that uninsured for $6.50, thanks!" Who knows? It´s just not fraud. EBay is not new anymore, and most people do know to ask questions before bidding. I for one do not need legal or moral chaperoneing.

kim klakow berlin, germany


> In regard to bike packing charges we were recently discussing, I really
> don't have a problem with such charges, if they are clearly stated up
> front.
> I'll simply adjust my bid to account for them. But I just discovered a
> more
> devious ploy that I do have a problem with. An eBay auction just ended
> for
> a Mavic starfish crank that went for $40 - seemingly a bargain despite a
> lot
> of toestrap rub. I was intending to bid, but happened to notice this
> auction had the recently introduced Calculated Shipping feature. I
> entered
> my zip code, and it calculated a whopping $24.75 shipping from Virginia to
> Texas for a crankset. However, a message said that this includes any
> packing and handling charges added by the seller. I hope the seller is
> not
> a list member, but even if he is, I have to say that to use Calculated
> Shipping in this manner is outright dishonest. eBay should ban hiding
> excessive handling fees in Calculated Shipping. If the seller is going to
> gouge $17 to $19 for packing, he should state that clearly in the main
> body
> of the auction.
>
> I hope the buyer checked the shipping before bidding and did not get a
> nasty
> surprise. If not, he would be completely within his rights to refuse to
> complete the transaction and to file a complaint of seller fruad with
> eBay.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>

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