Re: [CR]Nagasawa track bikes

(Example: Humor)

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:12:52 -0600
Subject: Re: [CR]Nagasawa track bikes
From: <airart4@juno.com>


I would be interested to know if there is a strength advantage to using a plug-in type dropout?

Mike Short, Austin TX

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:02:39 -0500 Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> writes:
> I don't understand this about plug in dropouts on Pop Brennan and
> Drysdale
> track frames. To me, plug in on the Nagasawa means a cast dropout
> (forkend)
> with a cast in socket for the tube. A shortcut, but a nice shortcut.
>
> All the examples Brennan and Drysdales I have seen and own have
> simple plate
> dropouts, cut from good quality steel. Ritchie- do you say plug in
> because
> the tube ends are left open? They are, there is no filler to close
> the tube
> ends.
>
> The Brennans were famous for using Brown and Sharpe tool steel for
> the
> plates. It is rather hard to cut as you would imagine. Jeff Groman
> has the
> templates they used to cut the dropouts.
>
> By the way he also has the other Brennan tools and special tooling,
> like the
> blocks for bending the bars as liked by the various riders..
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch, NJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Nagasawa track bikes
>
>
> >
> > just for the %#(&^ ] of it i'll add:
> > i've done a few repairs in my time and have been pleasantly
> > surprised at the construction quality i've seen in the 20s/30s,
> > etecetereterera frames built by the drysdales and pop brennans
> > of the world. these were true track frames built for the original
> > six-day era.
> > many/most of these had plug-in dropouts.
> > proper-issimo.
> > e-RICHIE
> > chester, ct
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> writes:
> > Tom Sanders wrote:
> > >
> > > If you like the Nagasawa work, you might like to check out
> > http://businesscycles.com/nagasawa.htm The track drop outs
> > they show are really works of art! Some classy bikes there, too.
> >
> >
> > Yes, arty track ends, but disappointing that they are plug in type
> to
> > simplify construction. Personally, I'd rather not see labor
> saving
> > design on a $2400 frame...
> >
> > http://businesscycles.com/graphics/naga_do_wh.jpg
> >
> > Chuck Schmidt
> > South Pasadena, Southern California
> > _______________________________________________
>
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