Re: [CR]Masi GC on ebay, (GO ST. JOE's)

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To: FedMaritime@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:49:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Masi GC on ebay, (GO ST. JOE's)
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

1) "Why would the Mondonico Masi GC be any less (or more) collectible..." 2) "I think its about design, quality control and faithfulness(?) to construction techniques that kept the mark popular for so long, especially in the USA."

1) that's my question. in my opinion, it's a brand. but it's a brand whose manufacture is generations removed from the iteration that gave it credibility. it ends up being a decal set applied to whatever from wherever. that part doesn't bother me; branding occurs routinely. i'm just interesting in why this brand - or this ebay frame and the al haro frames - is on someone's seek list. 2) i'd love to know more about those traits you cite. anyway - this frame is from 96 and was made under license. e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:33:55 EST FedMaritime@aol.com writes: In a message dated 3/18/2004 10:38:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, richardsachs@juno.com writes: it's clearly produced by a company whose lineage is long removed from the eponymous firm. Why would the Mondonico Masi GC be any less (or more) collectible than a California Masi built by Howard, Tesch, Eisentraut, Stark or Confente even? Its been claimed that Faliero hadn't built a full frame since the late 1950's, and that Alberto's actual hands-on torch-in hand frame building was fairly abbreviated as well.

I bet there's not more than five people who could correctly identify the builder of a random group of Masi's based upon construction details alone (no looking up serial numbers). I suspect Brian Baylis and Jim Cunningham could do it and maybe -- maybe a few others who were there.

I think its about design, quality control and faithfulness(?) to construction techniques that kept the mark popular for so long, especially in the USA. Well, that and the silly Breaking Away mojo.

THAT should stir the pot a bit. Kudos to erichie for using 'eponymous' on list!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Carlo (just playing Devil's Food Advocate) Carr New Orleans (Where we got all the MOJO workin'), Louisiana