RE: [CR]Not Buying IN - long

(Example: Production Builders:Pogliaghi)

From: "Anvil Bikeworks" <ojv@earthlink.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Not Buying IN - long
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:53:15 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20040323.085329.3980.1.richardsachs@juno.com>


I would like to point out that using investment cast lugs in lieu of pressed steel does not automatically mean their preparation takes less time. You can use IC lugs out of the box just as you can use Nervex or you can take the time to make them what you want them to be. If the latter is true (it is for every builder I know and I know lots of them), I'd say the LS's take more time simply from the fact that the material is not softer than whale sh!t like the Nervii and its ilk are. Can I say "whale sh!t" in Dale's living room? Sorry Dale.

Cheers! Don Ferris Anvil Bikeworks, Inc. Littleton, Colorado Ph: 303.471.7533 / 303.919.9073 Fax: 413.556.6825 http://www.anvilbikes.com

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Richard M Sachs Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:53 AM To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Not Buying IN - long

snipped: <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> writes: "You say it takes you twice as long to make a bike frame now (using your investment cast lugs?) as it did using pre-investment cast lugs (pressed steel lugs?)? And that the 200% increase in time it takes you to make a frame today is in the parts of the frame that do not include the lugs????? Would you elaborate in some detail please?" /-------------****---------------****---------------\

it's quite simple, ChuckissimoR. preparing and filing 3 frame lugs is not the entire body of work needed to make a frame. but - you knew that. in the ensuing years since i switched from pressed steel to cast lugs - and i still do use pressed steel lugs as well...