Re: [CR]Re: Alex Singer art?

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To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:14:33 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Alex Singer art?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

dale-issimo. i agree. i would add that use of siver/silver alloyed brazing rod of "any" percentage is never an indicator of the quality of the build. silver/silver alloyed brazing has this chi-chi* cache that, i believe, is rooted in some of the misinformation planted in magazines at the beginning of the usa bike boom in the 70s. e-RICHIE®™© Richard Sachs Cycles No.9, North Main Street Chester, CT 06412 USA Tel. 860.526.2059 site: http://www.richardsachs.com pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/bobbesrs rants: http://richardsachs.blogspot.com/

* chi-chi is not a technical term

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:22 EST OROBOYZ@aol.com writes: In a message dated 3/25/2004 2:04:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, jeremylieberman@earthlink.net writes: << Possibly Singer have switched from silver to brass brazing in recent years? Jeremy Lieberman >> I would be very surprised if Singer ever used silver except maybe for some super ultra light specials and/or braze on bits. Use of silver brazing compound in Euro bikes is extremely rare to nonexistent. And even when silver is used, the percentage silver content in the brazing material is likely low, as with Schwinn Paramounts, and the joining temperature is not as low as that of most USA custom builders who most often have silver content in the 45 -56 % range...

Without getting into long windy debates about brazing materials, many many really finely wrought, delicate detailed bikes have been joined with brass. So the care and execution of a well crafted bicycle frame has little or nothing to do with the brazing material used...

At least, in my opinion... <G>

Dale Brown
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