Re: [CR]re: modern derailer vs. brake cable housings

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From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: "classic list" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Roy H. Drinkwater" <roydrink@ptd.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR]re: modern derailer vs. brake cable housings
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:58:07 -0600


I checked Nashbar again, and you're right. It is a single item listing, but you do specify brake or derailleur, so perhaps the brake housing is not compressionless. However, Bike Tools Etc. offers "anti-compression" Delta brand brake cable housing, and the item number, DH-2200 is exactly the same as the Delta derailleur housing they offer.

Thanks for the warning. I think this sort of failure is sufficiently rare that I'm inclined to use the celeste SIS housing if necessary, but if someone can direct me to a source of non-compressionless celeste housing I'll use that instead and restrict the SIS to the shifters on my wifes Bianchi, which has modern Chorus indexed shifters.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy H. Drinkwater"
To: classic list
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: [CR]re: modern derailer vs. brake cable housings



> Jerry wrote:
>
> >It's a bit hard for me to believe that this is a common occurance. Were you
> >using aero cable routing? With traditional routing where the housings arch
> >over the handlebars, it seems to me these loops of housing would provide
> >more than adequate stress relief by deforming the curve of the arches long
> >before a housing would rupture. Aero routing constrains the housing much
> >more closely so I guess it could happen there. I must confess, this is the
> >first time I've never heard of a brake cable housing failing it this way.
>
> It happened on non-aero routing immediately above the ferrule
> at the brake adjuster.
>
> >Something else that doesn't make sense here is that the mail order places,
> >including Nashbar and Bike Tools Etc. sell exactly the same housings for use
> >with brakes and derailleurs. One presumes they must be compressionless to
> >work with indexed shifters, and in some cases they are explicit stated as
> >such. In a society crawling with product liability lawyers it seems
> >impossible a company as large as Nashbar would risk selling these as brake
> >cables if there was any evidence that they are prone to failure.
>
> Checking the latest Nashbar catalog - I had to use the can
> too ;^), the only housing set they list 'NA-CHS' says to specify
> Brake or Derailer. Ferrules are listed as 4mm derailer / 5mm brake
> & cable ends are 1.2mm derailer / 1.8mm brake.
>
> My Bike tools Etc. catalog lists derailer cables / housing
> separately from brake cables / housing.
>
>
> Roy "what's indexed? what's shifting?" Drinkwater
> Lititz, PA