[CR]was:Riding Theory now: Fausto's seat height

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:38:46 -0400
From: "Grant McLean" <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>
Subject: [CR]was:Riding Theory now: Fausto's seat height
To: "Classic Rendezvous Mail List (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
cc: "'NortonMarg@aol.com'" <NortonMarg@aol.com>

Hi Stevan

Gotta love bicisport, gives you info you never knew you needed! (like pictures of guys throwing up on the side of the road)

I have a late 90s copy that shows all the different positions that marco pantani had in during the previous 5 years. There were some wacky changes, let me tell ya!

It's well documented that many top pros constantly changed their position, as if they were searching for something to give them that extra advantage.... I haven't changed by position in about 15 years, maybe that's the reason I'll never be a pro!

Grant McLean(tm) Toronto.Ca come on spring! go ahead and get_sprung already would ya!

From: NortonMarg@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:37:13 EDT Subject: Re: [CR]was:Riding Theory now: Fausto's seat height

In a message dated 4/7/04 9:02:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, heine93@earthlink.net writes:
> Back then, there also was more rider preference. Coppi had his seat
> all the way down, Koblet (see below) actually had his bars quite a
> bit lower than his seat. Not like a modern bike, but much more so
> than Coppi. (Of course, Koblet was very tall, and maybe they just
> didn't want to build a frame taller than any they had made in the
> past, so he had to make do with a compromise.)
>

I have an issue of BiciSport that is a Coppi special edition from 1985. In looking at numerous pictures of his seat height, there are a couple where it

appears his seat is set so that there is 3" to 3.5" of pillar below the seat

clip. There are MORE pictures where the seat post shows 4" to 4.5" below the seat clip. My observation is it seems he ran it lower while climbing and higher on flat stages. I just found one particularly clear picture of him standing next to the bike. The steel stem is raised from the headset 2 1/2 to 3 fingers (the old rule of thumb for max height) and the pillar below the clip is between 4" and 4.5", with a leather saddle that doesn't look overly lowered, if at all. A later picture in the section shows his bike fitted with a single sided Simplex shifter and a rod/lever Simplex front, that may be 1948? The same basic relationships appear in the pictures of the book, "The True Story FAUSTO COPPI", his biography by Jean-Paul Oliver.

I agree with Jan that the bars are not a lot lower than his seat, I have to disagree that Coppi's seat was ever "all the way down". I haven't seen a single picture like that from the period of his peak career. Certainly low by today's standards and I agree with all Jan's general assertions.

Stevan Thomas
Alameda, CA