Guess what!......................Same applys here in Holland!.......But!...For well over 4 years and with 400 plus framesets sold we only had a few that we we're not able to send!..............Rats!.......It was new blood behind the counter that want's to do everything by the book, most others will just leave it alone........With those that we're let through they all ended up at their final destinations with no problems whatsoever, one week alone we sent out over 40 framesets and not a one came back!.............I think it may have something to do with T.N.T logistics of which has the contract to move the Dutch Postal packages through the system. Maybe T.N.T handles the packages that the us Postal service will not?? Anyway ''EVERYTHING!'' is routed through the U.K and sent off to their final destinations from there.
So now this make me wonder?? Question for those who has received a frameset from us in the past!.......Was it delivered by the U.S Postal service or other?
Charles, one of the 3 is on the way....................I'll be holding off on the others,...........I want to see if this one comes back.....Geeze! I hope not!
BC Baron C...............And the gang!!....................Just got in from one ''HELL!'' of a ''ROAD TRIP!'' I'm pooped and I'm going home to spend some quality time with the gang!!
Renaissance Cycles,
Eindhoven Holland.
> Fred,
> smaller frames are possible, but with only 3cm on each side, thick card
board and the reasonable goal to pack it well protected it can be hard to
achieve. They handle the 60cm really strict. Even if the box has 60,2cm at
one tiny spot you've lost.
> But the main task will be to explain all that to the (unaware) german
seller. The common boxes you can get for free at bike shops don't fit. So
the seller has to build his own. It must be a right-angled box. If it's a
bit out of shape its again considered as "oversized". Then you can't use the
max allowed 120x60x60 because additional limitations apply (l+2*h+2*w <300).
Packing even a small frame properly with this limitations can still be a
tough task. Complete bikes with two 700c wheels are impossible.
> Last but not least the people at the post offices often don't know the
rules exactly themselves, so they might accept a box that will be rejected
at half way later (like in my case) or they refuse to accept a box which is
okay. There are lots of sources for misunderstandings.
>
> Dirk
>
> BTW: The mentioned MENLO service accepts only companies as customers over
here. The cheapest way I found so far to send my nicely boxed 60,5cm Cinelli
SC to California is 250EUR with FedEx.
>
> Matthew, if you read this: Mario has built a smaller box and gives it a
second try today.
>
> --
> Dirk Feeken
> Heidelberg
> Germany
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Fred Rafael
Rednor
> Sent: Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 15:51
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]interesting german bikes
>
>
> > for those who are interested in On Topic
> > german bicycles there's the rare opportunity
> > to see some of the rather rare examples on
> > eBay right now (just to look, not to bid for,
> > see my last mail).
> Dirk,
> Do you know if a smaller bicycle or frame (let's say 50 to
> 53cm) could be shipped from Germany. I'm interested in finding
> a track bicycle from East Germany. If a miracle occurs and I
> find one, will be possible to ship it to the USA for a
> reasonable cost?
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia