Re: [CR]Epitome Of Bilaminated Frames

(Example: Events)

From: "sam Lingo" <samclingo@hotmail.com>
To: rstankus@mindspring.com, Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, richardsachs@juno.com
Subject: Re: [CR]Epitome Of Bilaminated Frames
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:49:23 +0000


I have a question,would not fancy cut lugs cut down on the time needed to heat the lug enough for the brass to flow evenly by alowing it to flow from a deeper part of the lug than just the front?Do not also the "fancy" cuts add some rap of lug around the tube and add strength?Seems like they would to this country boy.

Gargoyles are often used as gutter down spouts.

And some of the EXTERIOR DECORATIONS ,of very high built churches in England , are placed ontop of the flying butteries as ballas to add weight or the building would fail in wind.

I like Architect O'Neil Ford who's work includes the Hall at LaVillita in San Antonio inwhich he used the structure of a bicycle wheel(rim ,spokes,hud) as the roof when the building was built,he liked the bicycle and took several of his works from it.

last ---columbus supplied tubing to Marcel Breuer ,desinger of the tubular chair

sam lingo pleasanton tx


>From: "roman stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: roman stankus <rstankus@mindspring.com>
>To: "Grant McLean" <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>,<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,"Richard M Sachs (E-mail)" <richardsachs@juno.com>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Epitome Of Bilaminated Frames
>Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:07:56 -0400
>
> Exhaustive studies of Mies' work over the past 30 years have conclusively
>shown that "Less is Less" as modern architecture shows its age and lack of
>understanding of basic human patterns of life. Beautiful stuff(some of it)
>that doesn't work terribly well. Similar to a beautifully crafted frame
>with bad geometry that rides harshly. Some like the Thing so much they are
>willing to suffer the ride or the building.
>
>Unlike buildings, bike lugs are fashion. Choose your lug designs based on
>approprite party attire. Sometimes a tuxedo, sometimes casual, sometimes
>lace! Done right - I love them all.
>
>Roman Stankus
>in Atlanta Ga. where personal tastes run toward the quiet and sublime
>
>In response to Peter, Grant wrote:
>
> > "Famous for his dictum 'Less is More', Mies attempted to create
> > contemplative, neutral spaces through an architecture based on
> > material honesty and structural integrity. Over the last twenty
> > years of his life, Mies achieved his vision of a monumental
> > 'skin and bone' architecture. His later works provide a fitting
> > denouement to a life dedicated to the idea of a universal,
> > simplified architecture ."
> >
> > >
> > "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net> writes:
> > My god... they really do look like French frilly knickers!
> > I know they are hallmark of bespoke British framemaking, etc. etc. and I
> > have followed this fascinating thread with great interest, but I must
> > confess the aesthetic appeal of these ornate lugs simply escapes me. I
> > regard these frames as wonders of 1950s-60s craftsmanship and technology.
> > Yet they resemble early Victorian industrial revolution technology which
> > sought to camouflage their very modernity with ornate, fussy artiface.
> > They look like early Singer sewing machines to me. Can you imagine a 1950s
> > or
> > 1960s sportscar with such retrograde aesthetics? Like an E-Type with faux
> > wood side panels. Or a VC-10 with faux canvas wing covering.
> >
> > Peter Kohler
> > Washington DC USA
> > ------------------------------
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