Re: [CR]Are there real wrap around seatstay lugs?

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:06:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]Are there real wrap around seatstay lugs?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: tsan7759142@comcast.net
cc: tsan7759142@comcast.net

most of these are the brass-in-the-middle method. e-RICHIE aka Richard M Sachs chester, ct

On Tue, 25 May 2004 14:43:35 EDT OROBOYZ@aol.com writes:
> In a message dated 5/25/2004 12:43:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> tsan7759142@comcast.net writes:
>
> << Are all wrap around seat lugs done this way? Is the effect
> purely
> cosmetic, rather than structural? >>
>
> Last past first: Purely cosmetic (but looks count!)
>
> How are wrapovers done?
> There are a bunch of ways wrapovers can be done..
> Most are some use of machined of machined "top eyes" tapped over
> with a
> hammer as the tips cross over the top of the seat lug...
>
> 1.) There is the method of using special long point top eye plugs,
> connecting
> them at the top middle and filing:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Holdsworth/HoldDss1L.jpg
>
> Woodrup looks like it has had a special pair of mating top eye plugs
> made up
> to look like one piece (see how high the engraving goes?)
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Woodrup/Wood_DK3L.jpg
>
> 2.) Here is Mercian using more conventional top eyes with less to
> join at
> wrap over..
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Mercian/Mercian_CO_3.jpg
>
> 3.) And another version, a Wally Green using similar methods:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Green_Wally/GreenW4L.jpg
>
> 4.) And again on a Hetchins...
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Hetchins/H8116sL.jpg
>
> 5.) There ARE one piece plug in deal, that Falcon used frequently:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/British/Falcon/FalcDB3L.jpg
>
> 6.) And finally there are special wrapover stamped plates that are
> used to
> connect the two seat stays which are chamfer cut to receive them. I
> didn't have
> an example but here's a drawing I made of what they look like:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/wrapover_plate.htm
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC