Re: [CR]Question about Windsor and Lotus

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:37:16 -0400
From: "Jamie Swan" <jswan@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Question about Windsor and Lotus
In-reply-to: <010901c4444a$d3a34da0$efddfea9@mooshome>
To: jerrymoos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, Tom Palermo <tom@velorider.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


on 5/27/04 8:29 PM, jerrymoos at jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Red, black and gold are not "Nazi" colors. They were associated with
> Germany long before and long after the Nazi era. Just as red white and
> green Italian colors have no particular association with Mussolini and the
> Fascists.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Swan" <jswan@optonline.net>
> To: "Tom Palermo" <tom@velorider.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Question about Windsor and Lotus
>
>
>> on 5/26/04 10:04 AM, Tom Palermo at tom@velorider.com wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know anything about the Lotus and/or Windsor brands? I found
>>> a couple of Lotus decals and a set of Windsor GrandSport and Windsor
>>> International decals. I don't anything about either of these brands so
>>> any info would be helpful. I assume Windsor is a British brand.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>
>> Both of those bikes were imported / distributed in Metro N.Y.C. by Sid
> Starr
>> here on Long Island. I can't recall the name of his company though...
>>
>> Sid sponsored our club, the German Bicycle Sport Club, in the 70's, and we
>> had "Windsor" on our jerseys. The traditional club colors were white with
>> black and red accents like the pre war German flag. Before Windsor we had
>> Reingold beer as a sponsor. Junior riders were issued jerseys without the
>> Reingold logo... Anyway, by that time there was no real association with
>> anything German but those Nazi colors survived... That was until Sid Starr
>> (a Jew) started writing the checks. The Windsor jerseys were blue with
>> white.
>>
>> img src=http://homepage.mac.com/jamie_swan/me_george.jpg
>>
>> Jamie Swan - Northport, N.Y.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> Hi Jerry,

Sorry if I worded that poorly and/or offended anyone. I was trying to say that Sid Starr associated that color scheme with the Nazis.

Jamie Swan - Northport, N.Y.