Re: [CR]Was: "E-bay Pog. - is it the real deal?".. Now broader thoughts....

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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:59:12 +0200 (MEST)
From: "kim klakow" <Akimbo71@gmx.net>
To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [CR]Was: "E-bay Pog. - is it the real deal?".. Now broader thoughts....
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Wow! That reads like a national anthem!

greets, Kim klakow berlin, germany


> In a message dated 6/5/2004 6:47:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Norris.Lockley@btopenworld.com writes:
>
> << .... twenty years on, we will be asking whether in fact these Italian
> frames were actually the "real deal" i.e. made in Italy. Globalisation
> will have,
> already has, changed the sourcing of much that we now buy new. Over here
> in a
> Europe that is bursting out eastwards, with the ten new countries just
> added
> on, companies in the "old Europe" of the original EEC, are making haste to
> set
> up factories in those new European territories, where labour is cheap.
>
> Near my home, in that ancient city of York, a producer of fine chocolates
> within the city walls, since 1649, has just announced the closure of the
> plant,,
> with the loss of around 700 jobs.. all future manufacturing to take place
> in
> Poland.
>
> So it came as no surprise yesterday, when I read that the Italian company
> Nuova Cicli Conti e Ciocc srl Italia has transferred its activities to
> Poland.
>
> Is that Ciocc.. the real deal? I mean .. is it an Italian one? >>
>
> Thanks Norris, I always enjoy your viewpoint.
>
> I think you have inadvertently hit on the whole purpose of the Classic
> Rendezvous... It is absolutely true that globalization and the modern
> effort is
> pushing society to make things we use as cheaply and anonymously as
> possible. Many
> of us, I think both here in the States and around the world, are trying to
> focus on and proclaim the value of bicycles made by people, identifiable
> people,
> who actually made things by their own hand!
>
> People like you, Norris! I feel I know you a bit through this list and I
> think if you and I walked through a modern shopping mall, we would be hard
> pressed
> to find much of anything we could say was made by a particular
> identifiable
> individual person or group, that object in some way reflecting the skill
> or
> handwork unique to that group. On the other hand, I could own a bicycle
> frame
> that you yourself made, with your years of involvement with the craft,
> experience
> and presumable care in construction. You could tell me, "See that seat
> stay
> top eye? I like to file the tip just that way..."
>
> I think I am safe in saying that the CR members do not necessarily place
> value in cheapness, speed of manufacture, lightness, flash, advertising
> promotion,
> availability, sponsored riders, but instead we "put our money on" on
> craft,
> individualism, heritage, relationship with the company or builder, style,
> finesse, yes, even art! This is becoming harder to identify in our modern
> world,
> and while we are forced to live in it, we can still take a few moments of
> our
> harried to look back and hopefully a few more moments to support the
> "carriers
> of the flame."
>
> Dale
>
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC
> _______________________________________________
>

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