Re: [CR]Old vs new riders, numbers not opinions

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To: BobHoveyGa@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:13:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]Old vs new riders, numbers not opinions
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

i wouldn't read that much into the quotes. in the previous paragraph they use the qualifier: "On a bicycle like this..." i'd cut the editor/journalist some slack and just assume that they were conversing in conceptual terms. otoh, the pedals don't look 81 era. they could've been stuck on for the exhibit noted in the story. and when the script says: "cast microsusion lugs..." that's redundant. cast means microfusion which means cast. i think all the gaffs are related to the editing. e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:27:49 EDT BobHoveyGa@aol.com writes:

In a message dated 6/18/04 6:08:58 PM, richardsachs@juno.com writes:

i read it as "it was his idea" - but the pic doesn't necessarily represent the prototype he's referencing. e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:34:55 EDT BobHoveyGa@aol.com writes:
>>For those who hate this thread and rue me for bringing
>>it up, there is also an interesting article on the
>>history of pinarello:
>>http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2004/features/pinarello
>
>Including nice '57 and '81 pro bikes and the dubious
>claim of the "first modern triple".
>
>I remember that bike. It hung at Il Vecchio's for a few years before
>the distributor wanted it back. Nice bike indeed. First triple? Makes
>me smile.

What makes me smile is the following quote from Fausto Pinarello:

"My father Giovanni came up with the idea back then; he took a regular Campagnolo Super Record chainset and then drilled out the crankarms."

Yet the arms on the crank that appears in the photo quite clearly bear the shorter flutes of a Campy factory triple (part #819).

Bob Hovey Columbus, GA

Au contraire, it's pretty clear that the text is referring specifically to that photo: "This bike was specifically made for Giovanni Battaglin for the 1981 Giro d'Italia. It was his usual racing bike, but made for the very steep Tre Cime di Lavaredo stage that year. This was the first modern triple chainring used for road racing on this level. My father Giovanni came up with the idea back then; he took a regular Campagnolo Super Record chainset and then drilled out the crankarms."

Even if as you say, the pic is not referencing Pinarello's prototype, it IS referencing the shop-fabricated special spider which went on Battaglin's bike (described in the next paragraph). This crank obviously ain't it. Perhaps the original was lost/stolen/worn out/sold on Ebay... then later replaced with a Campy production model for this exhibit.

Bob Hovey
Clumbus, GA