Re: [CR]suspicious offers

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

From: "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net>
To: <chuck1sd@cox.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20040708142336.KVEJ13283.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]suspicious offers
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:36:46 -0700


I am sorry to hear of your loss. I always feel you have to listen to that little voice in your head that says do not go there. Steven Willis 1778 East Second Street Scotch Plains NJ 07076 908-322-3330 http://www.thebikestand.com


----- Original Message -----
From: chuck1sd@cox.net
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:23 AM
Subject: [CR]suspicious offers



> Definately be careful!! Let me tell you about how I got ripped off. I was contacted by email about a year ago regarding a Project 96 TT bike I was selling. The person said that they had been looking for one for a customer of theirs. The guy said he was an american businessman who was from Texas and had an import/export business in the Philipines. He offered me $3000 for the bike and sent me his credit card info. Included with the info was, name, address, credit card #, and three digit code from the back. I ran the card on my machine at work and everything was OK. He also paid for next day shipping-$430 (I should have now become suspicious). I shipped it FedX, and was very happy. Two months later the money was debited out of my bank account by Visa. The real owners of the card filed a claim. They were still in possesion of the card, so the info was lifted off the internet. The credit card company said I did not have any recourse because I was not set up to take credit cards over the phone and therefore was not covered by my sellers protection(absolute BS, but I was out of luck). I lost the money and the bike!!!
> So beware of those who sound fishy, because they probably are.
>
> Charles Schlesinger
> San Diego, CA USA