Re: [CR]More on Weyless Hubs

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 11:57:30 -0700
From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
To: Tom Martin <tom@wilsonbike.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]More on Weyless Hubs
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My Bartali came with an extra clincher wheelset with Weyless hubs/ QR skewers when I bought it.

I put a LOT of miles on those, and other than the aforementioned bit of side play and the less than smooth yet effective and light QRs, I have nothing but praise for the way they performed.

Definitely no anodizing on the hub bodies. I think that wheelset is in my carport somewhere still...

Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:35:18 -0700, Tom Martin <tom@wilsonbike.com> wrote:
> Just so everyone knows, Supergo somehow bought (or retrademarked after
> expiration) the Weyless name. Now it is just a brand associated with generic
> Taiwan and China carbon this and aircraft aluminum that.
>
> Tom Martin
> Oakland Ca
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>
> To: <jschaer@columbus.rr.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:25 PM
> Subject: [CR]More on Weyless Hubs
>
> > In a message dated 7/31/2004 9:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jschaer@columbus.rr.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > I'm not positive, but I believe these are essentially the same as Bill
> > Shook's later American Classic hubs. I think the earliest versions of
> these
> > were turned from 6061 aluminum, which isn't very corrosion resistant, and
> > then powder-coated in colors. There may have been a lot of variation in
> the
> > powder-coating process. I've seen some that have aged very well, and some
> > that had a lot of flaking of the coating at the spoke holes. These then
> tend
> > to corrode a lot, which weakens the flanges. The durability generally
> seemed
> > to be good, but at the time spoke tensions were generally lower, wheels
> were
> > 32' or 36', and usually 3x. Later hub versions I think were of 2000
> series,
> > then 7000 series. Even though these alloys are stronger, there were more
> > flanges failures (as most all of the OT boutique hubs of the 90's had).
> >>
> >
> > Jon and all:
> >
> > Unlike some of you whipper snappers (ahem) I was around and actively in da
> > business in those days and I am 99.78% sure that Weyless were first and
> forever
> > highly polished raw aluminum finish. No anodizing nor powder coating.
> > I am sure that Bill Shook was the initial designer too but they were not
> > labeled as such. Bullseye, maybe American Classic & others may have been
> powder
> > coated but never Weyless.
> > I couldn't speak to the alloy used but a few hubs did crack at the
> flanges,
> > separating in the space between spoke holes and outer edges.. But many
> lasted
> > until today and were very reliable in general.
> > The quick release was also very unique and distinctive, with tubular
> aluminum
> > loops for levers. Like many sealed bearing hubs, there was a discernible
> play
> > out at the rim in built up wheels. "Racers slack"?
> >
> > Pictures here:
> >
> > http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Weyless.htm
> >
> > Dale Brown
> > Greensboro, NC