So, what is going on with the list these days? I am so tired of all this bickering and immature bullshit. Let's keep it on classic bikes shall we? If you think someone paid too much for something, too bad. Keep it to yourself, no one else cares. I'm just jealous that I can't afford to buy the really nice stuff that I see such as De Rosa's and NOS Mavic derailleurs. I sure don't begrudge or belittle anyone for buying it if they like it. Mr. Phelps, once again you are out of line. Mr Parker is correct in that you probably should have been bounced from this list based on your original tirade. There is really no excuse for your behavior, then or now. I think our esteemed listmeister is getting a wee bit too lenient in what he allows to go on here. Rod (strongly considering dropping this list as it just isn't fun anymore) Kronenberg Fort Collins, CO
> Thanks for the whiney-ass feedback Parker, you can keep your opinion to
\r?\n> yourself. To be honest I feel neither interested nor obligated to pay
\r?\n> you and your opinion any attention at all, unless of course you want to
\r?\n> be nice. Sadly, it appears you do not, I don't owe you or any of the
\r?\n> other rabid "don't disagree with me" cretins on this list squat. Maybe
\r?\n> YOU need a little more oatmeal in your diet, sounds like YOU'RE the one
\r?\n> who's stressed. Go ride a bike, forget about the rent on your
\r?\n> storefront for a while and try to enjoy life, you'll feel better. And
\r?\n> then, when you feel better, you won't have gotten that feeling at
\r?\n> someone elses expense. Dale and I are just fine, don't presume YOUR
\r?\n> values dictate that. sheesh
\r?\n>
\r?\n> "not that anyone was wondering"
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> --- gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:
\r?\n>
\r?\n> > To be honest, I think we've had just about enough of your negativity
\r?\n> > and venom on the list lately. Betcha fifty bucks you wouldn't act
\r?\n> > like this in Dale's garage/shop/living room. IMO you're lucky you
\r?\n> > haven't been bounced. You still owe us all an apology for your
\r?\n> > original tirade.
\r?\n> > Knock it off! Fix whatever is stressing you out. You're not looking
\r?\n> > real good on-list these days.
\r?\n> > Plus, ya didn't sign off (not that anyone was wondering who
\r?\n> > originated the post or anything...).
\r?\n> > Greg "fed up" Parker
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
\r?\n> > From: "Dale B. Phelps"
\r?\n> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> > Subject: [CR]Re: Opinionism and entitlement
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > bianchipan@yahoo.com wrote: What makes any one individual's choice
\r?\n> > more
\r?\n> > or less sane than the next guy/girl? I myself do not care for a
\r?\n> > Herse,
\r?\n> > but I admire them and all other bikes built with passion.But that is
\r?\n> > just me.I was taught as a child,"If you have nothing nice to say,then
\r?\n> > I
\r?\n> > suggest you say nothing at all". Good advice I think,and it should
\r?\n> > apply here.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Then Bruce (from) Dundee wrote:
\r?\n> > Harris, That's good advice for a child but we're all grown-ups on
\r?\n> > this list. Much of life revolves around opinions whether it be
\r?\n> > politics, the arts, or whatever. As I said earlier, I don't like
\r?\n> > Italian bikes (I'll make an exception for 1950s Italian
\r?\n> > frames though) because they all look the same. You might not like
\r?\n> > Hobbs
\r?\n> > or Flying Scots machines in which case I won't be offended if you
\r?\n> > say so. It's just an opinion, no better or worse than anyone else's
\r?\n> > and
\r?\n> > you either take it or leave it.
\r?\n> > To which Dale P. replied:
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Easy enough for you to say take it or leave it Bruce, but no one here
\r?\n> > is acting like an asshole belittling YOUR choice, or your opinion for
\r?\n> > that matter. You're right everyone IS entitled to their own
\r?\n> > preferences, however I strongly disagree with the notion that
\r?\n> > everyone
\r?\n> > is entitled to express those opinions that are so dear to them
\r?\n> > ESPECIALLY when persistently bleating insults at others while doing
\r?\n> > so.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Yes, I know I said the word "asshole." So what, its part of my
\r?\n> > opinion,
\r?\n> > right? -smile-
\r?\n>
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