Re: [CR]PX-10? Photos

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From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20040822013333.59557.qmail@web80603.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]PX-10? Photos
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:56:32 -0400


Ted,

Frame set has all the tell tale signs (lugs, paint scheme and decal type) of being a standard PX10E from about 1975 or 1976. Nothing on the frame stands out to imply otherwise. Uncommon in blue, but not unheard of either.

Regarding the parts you listed in your prior post, many of them indicate PX-10LE but I suspect they were swapped over from another frame at some point. The LE always had Nervex Dubois lugs (simple short point lugs painted the same color as the rest of the frame) and came with Mafac Competitions and an Atax stem with Peugeot labels. The E came with Mafac Racers and AVA bar and stem. Both, up until 1977, came with Stronglight 93 cranksets so the Mod 49 on yours seems to also come from a donor bike.

Contrary to another listees post on the subject, it is my strong opinion and experience that Peugeot very rarely varied its components from model to model or year to year - they were indeed exceptionally consistent, even through the bike boom years; unlike Raleigh and other high volume manufacturers of the time.

Nice stuff and should clean up well from the photos.

Enjoy your find,

Eric Elman
Somers, CT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted E. Baer"
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: [CR]PX-10? Photos



> Hi Ed, all,
>
> Here is a link where you can view the PX-10 frameset I
> have.
>
> http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/wickedsky@sbcglobal.net
>
> The photos are quite poor as you can see and do not do
> justice to the frameset. The serial # again is:
> 0956791. I did search the Peugeot section in CR and
> found that the one I have is closest to the red
> Peugeot which is pictured below the white PX-10 (Dale
> Brown's) and above the 1980 PZ-10 belonging to Jerry
> Moos.
>
> I looked at the rims--both front and rear, and did
> find the little engraved numbers that you were
> referring to (just to the right of the word FRANCE.)
> Problem is they are so small and faint that I cannot
> read them. I will have to get a magnifying lens. The
> first three numbers do appear to be "0 2 7" best I can
> tell.
>
> Thanks for the help and info with regard to dating
> these rims.
>
> I have decided to leave the lugs as is (not paint over
> the black.)
>
> Ted Baer
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> Archive-URL:
> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10408.1107. eml
> From: "Edward Kasper" <doghouse44@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [CR]PX-10 info
> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:25:08 -0400
>
> Ted,
> Check the rims: near the decal should be the date
> code stamped in the
> form of mm yy.(month year) below "Montlery". As
> previously mentioned, the
> black on the Nervex Pro lugs is probably original,
> could I get you to
> reconsider repainting?
>
> Ed Kasper
> Detroit
>
> Ted wrote:
> Still has Maillard
> "Peugeot Trophy" foil decal large flange hubs laced to
> red-diamond label Mavic "Championnat Du Monde" tubular
> rims. Has a stem that looks very similar to an ATAX
> only the word "Peugeot" appears on the sides along
> with Stronglight Competition headset and Stronglight
> BB.
>
> Here are my questions for the seasoned Peugeot
> experts:
>
> The serial # is on a little strip of aluminum that is
> pinned onto the BB. It reads: 0956791. Anyone know
> what year this frame is?
>
> Next, the lugs around the headtube have been painted
> black and do not go with the semi-metallic blue frame.