Re: [CR]Vintage Pogliaghi Track Bicycle Bike FB crank Italy EBay Itemnumber: 2267774042

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:59:36 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage Pogliaghi Track Bicycle Bike FB crank Italy EBay Itemnumber: 2267774042
To: themaaslands@comcast.net, Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <090420041649.5856.4139F236000970F5000016E022007511509C0B020E049C0E0E030A089B@comcast.net>


In my opinion, whoever gave this seller the idea that the second bike is the valuable one, a Pogliaghi etc.did not do the hobby a favor. While I'm certainly not in the "never wise up a chump" school, wising up this guy irks me because the information is being put to bad purposes.

Based on this information the seller now figures he has a hot ticket and that justifies 1) Breaking a contract with his original bidders in conflict with Ebay policy, 2) Soliciting private so-called "buy it now" offers in another apparent attempt to mess with the bidding process and violate Ebay policy and 3) Possibly misrepresenting the bike as a Pogliaghi (I don't know if it is or not).

The first auction had a number of bidders and no reserve. The auction was on. The seller cancelled those legitimate bids using the basis of an error in the listing. This was a false pretense. The listing clearly said the second bike was unidentified and "what you see is what you get".

Then in the second auction he now has a reserve, not yet met and "WILL CONSIDER OFFERS AND OFFER A BUY IT NOW FOR THE RIGHT PRICE." So he's already fishing to violate the auction terms and Ebay rules again.

I really detest this sort of predatory double dealing and see this as a good example of why a little information can be a dangerous thing.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: themaaslands@comcast.net
To: Classic Rendezvous
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage Pogliaghi Track Bicycle Bike FB crank Italy EBay
Itemnumber: 2267774042



> Charles outed the following:
> > Vintage Pogliaghi Track Bicycle Bike FB crank Italy Item number:
> > 2267774042
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
>
> This bike was already outed previously when it was paired up with a lower level Frejus bike and listed under pair of Frejus bikes. I don't know where the seller came up with the Pogliaghi tie-in, perhaps somebody would like to comment about it being or not being a Pagliaghi.
>
> If the winner is a list member, I can almost assuredly come up with a matching fromt hub.
> --
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ