[CR]re: another what is this bike ebay--Lygie?

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From: "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:00:01 -0700
Subject: [CR]re: another what is this bike ebay--Lygie?

Garrett wrote:

Check out completed item #3696965247.This bike seems to share some distinct similarities to the red mystery bike,i.e. seatstay treatment,serial number placement,eyelets,even lugs,although they are perhaps many years apart chronologically.Am I seeing things?-

Garrett Drake Washington, DC

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At the risk of being a bore..that seat-cluster was a stock item used on a bazillion italian bikes, including the Frejus TdF, Lygie, early Cinelli Bs and god-knows-what-all. Nothing very distinctive about it other than it was most commonly seen from the mid-1950s through the mid-1960s, and probably later than that..but not much later, I believe. I've always associated that cluster with price-point bikes.. I believe it was rarely seen on the top bikes, except maybe the top Lygie..but, then, Lygies were not exactly artisan frames. Every one I ever saw, at any price, was shamefully crude.

Charles "ready to state the commonplace at a moment's notice" Andrews SoCal

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