Maurice, Please e-mail your address. I have misplaced it. Thanks, and sorry to bother the list. Jay Sexton Sebastopol, CA
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Nice looking GRANDIS frame on Ebay
> 2. Legnano/Flash backs on ebay
> 3. Re: was eBay, now cyclo_network, now retro German Bike Music
> 4. RE: Classic rapid rise rear der? (Sheldon Brown)
> 5. Re: Really cool early 80s gear - mix & match!
> (Professore di Pimpissimo)
> 6. Re: Trexlertown Postswapmeet Ride (Mike Schmidt)
> 7. Re: Nice looking GRANDIS frame on Ebay
> 8. Re: Legnano/Flash backs on ebay (richardsachs@juno.com)
> 9. Re: Velo Rendezvous IV Entrants and Bikes (Ken Wallace)
> 10. Re: Nice looking GRANDIS frame on Ebay (Harris)
> 11. Intro, via Holdsworth on SF Craigslist (Dan Kehew)
> 12. Re: Really cool early 80s gear - mix & match! (Wayne Davidson)
> 13. Re: Re: was eBay, now cyclo_network (Wayne Davidson)
> 14. Re: Nice looking GRANDIS frame on Ebay (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 15. Re: Provenance: the saddle (Jamie Swan)
> 16. Re: Re: was eBay, now cyclo_network, now retro German Bike
> Music (Steven L. Sheffield)
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>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:31:17 EDT
>From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
>To: OROBOYZ@aol.com, B747Inst@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Nice looking GRANDIS frame on Ebay
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>No more "Outing of Faggin" bikes for me this week, but check out this Grandis
>frame on ebay, No relation to Seller, etc. I always thought that Grandis were
>French bikes, but this looks as much as an Italian steed if there ever was
>one. Nice looking either way.
>
>http://ebay.com/<blah>
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>cheers-
>Dave Anderson
>Cut Bank MT
>
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>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:35:38 EDT
>From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
>To: richardsachs@juno.com, d.kennard@adelphia.net
>Cc: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Legnano/Flash backs on ebay
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>Check out your cursor on this auction. Now I know what e-Richie was talking
>about with all those acid flash backs! No relation to seller, etc.
>
>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>ue
>
>cheers
>Dave Anderson
>Cut Bank MT
>
>P.S. I like Legnano too!
>
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>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:01:43 EDT
>From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
>To: stevens@veloworks.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Re: was eBay, now cyclo_network, now retro German Bike Music
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>In a message dated 9/21/2004 5:44:59 PM PST, stevens@veloworks.com writes:
>
>
>>>He's also a Spandau Ballet fan.
>>>
>>>
>>=20
>>That=B4s not very difficult in Germany.
>>
>>
>
>So what's with the German obsession with a British pop band?
>
>And whatever happened to Nena ...
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>No news on what happened to Ms. Hagen and didn't Spandau Ballet morph into=20
>Joy Division?=20
>But speaking of some actual German Music/Bicycle connection, those premordia=
>l=20
>perveyors of electronic pop, Kraftwerk, are at it again with a recent=20
>album/song called something like "Tour de Frank".
>BTW, my favorite German band is "AutoBahn" from the movie, Big=20
>Lebowksy,,,they really Rock!=20
>cheers-
>Dave Anderson
>Cut Bank--more than wheat fields--MT
>
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>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:53:44 -0400
>From: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
>To: "Doug Stephens" <dougstephens@dougstephens.net>,
> "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: RE: [CR]Classic rapid rise rear der?
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>Doug Stephens wrote:
>
>
>>Errr.... I've heard "Rapid Rise" is Shimano's trademarked name for what is
>>actually called a "low normal" mechanism. So, are there any late 70's earl=
>>
>>
>y
>
>
>>80's "low normal" designs?
>>
>>
>
>No, low normal derailers pretty much disappeared by the early '60s.
>
>I recall it was very confusing converting to the=20
>use of high-normal derailers when I bought my=20
>first Hur=E9t Alvit as an upgrade from the Benelux=20
>Mark VIII I had previously been using.
>
>There is a rare and quite wonderful Sun Tour=20
>low-normal parallelogram derailer, probably=20
>dating from the late '60s. It's called the=20
>"Skitter" and it is a brilliant desgn.
>
>It only has one spring, a coil spring. One end=20
>of the spring winds up the cage, the other end=20
>moves the parallelogram down toward the big=20
>sprocket.
>
>This is not cool just because of its elegant=20
>simplicity, it olso serves to equalize chain=20
>tension! As the derailer shifts inward to the=20
>larger sprockets, the tension on the cage=20
>automatically reduces. As you shift to higher=20
>gears, the cage tension increases.
>
>The result is that chain tension hardly varies at=20
>all from low to high gear, a feature unique to=20
>this design. (Most derailers cause there to be=20
>less chain tension when you're in the smaller=20
>sprockets, increasing the risk of chain jumping.)
>
>These work _really_ well for their vintage=20
>(they're slant-pantograph design too) but they=20
>never caught on because of the "backwards"=20
>shifting.
>
>I think the name "Skitter" might also have been=20
>part of the marketing problem...due to the font=20
>chosen, the "k" looked a lot like an "h."
>
>Sheldon "Sun Tour Used To Have Some Really Good Ideas" Brown
>Newtonville, Massachusetts
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