Met up with my Father and some of his mates at a local Cyclo Cross race today. My apologies there was a Claud Butler Massed Start welded model produced in the 1940's. I thought this model was produced in the 50's. Got it completely wrong. Gave my Bates BAR an airing today and what was the first thing said to me by one of my Dad's elderly mates "Shame its missing the original steel Bates BAR stem". So there's another to add to the list. Best wishes and be lucky. Michael Butler Huntingdon UK.