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Steven L. Sheffield With two phone lines and voicemail in Midvale, Utah.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:43:36 GMT, brianbaylis wrote
> Tom,
>
> I'm getting pissed at UPS. I'm going to try using FedEx for a while.
> I sent a box almost a month ago to Dale. I put it in a box that
> originally had paint in it. I didn't notice the dull red square that
> indicates a hazardous material printed on the box. The box was
> clearly NOT containing the original contents since I had to fudge
> the top a bit to fit some racks inside. I declaired the contents
> when they took my request for a pick up as "bike parts". What do
> they do with that information? The driver took it to the
> distribution center and almost a month passed before I got a call to
> come pick it up, 20 miles away. I get there and the counter person
> said I could not just mark out the red square, I had to use a whole
> new box, which they would gladly sell me. I paid for the shipment
> when my driver picked it up. I was told that not only they couldn't
> send it along, I would have to pay again for shipping. I made a
> mistake by not seeing the red square on the box, but they couldn't
> care less what was INSIDE the box or that I already paid them to
> deliver it and had to drive 40 miles to pick it up from them because
> they are "not allowed" to move the box. I have stood by UPS for many
> years, but now I'm pissed off. When I asked why it took so long for
> them to call me they said we tried to call last week but couldn't
> get through (in other words my line was busy when they called) so
> they set it aside until next week when they try again. I can think
> of a number of better options than that for getting this package on
> the way. I had no idea the box had been sitting there for nearly a month.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
>
> -- "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com> wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> As of Jan 1 2004, UPS has raised their pricing for all services (as
> they do every year). A COD tag now costs somewheres around $9.00.
> This is the cost of the tag alone- the privelege of UPS accepting
> your check- exclusive of the freight rates. UPS Adjusted their
> dimensional weights a couple of years ago, so now there is a
> standard box size (anything under OS 1 size), OS 1 size and, and OS
> 2 size. OS 2 is anything larger than a box that would fit a 26" mtn
> bike wheel without a tire. UPS charges anything at or above this
> dimension the same as 70lbs. The OS 1 size is charged the same as 35lbs.
> This makes it very expensive for bike dealers to have stuff shipped
> to them and now must add freight to their selling price in some
> fashion. (I am guessing their suppliers are not marking up their UPS
> rates to their dealers like mailboxes etc does). For mere mortals,
> going to the local UPS dropoff location (like mailboxes etc), you
> will probably get reamed. FedEx and all the others follow suit as
> UPS is the Big Daddy and basically sets the price for this stuff.
> This is a daily battle we have where I work, trying to keep the
> freight down for us and our customers. Invariably we look like the
> bad guy cuz the freight bill always seems to get larger and larger.
> But the costing of the freight shouldn't prevent sellers from just
> dumping a frame or wheels or parts into a box and sending it on its
> way. Packing materials cost money too, and the time to wrap the
> parts needs to be taken into account. It may seem excessive to the
> buyer, but most of the cost is going to UPS and not to the 'greedy' seller.
>
> Tom Martin
> Oakland CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wspokes" <wspokes@penn.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:57 AM
> Subject: [CR]Update and apology re:Opinion needed, ebay gone wild.
>
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> > First, I apologize to those tired of hearing about ebay and paypal. Here's
> an EXACT quote I just got from the guy regarding the crushed and crimped
> stays.
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> > "I"t has been a while, but if I remember correctly the indentation you are
> talking about, is meant to be there. I wouldn't effect the integrity
> of the frame as a whole. "
> >
> >
> >
> > Meant to be there?? Give it a rest! This now screams negligence and lies
> to me. Email me offlist for his name and user ID. I wouldn't want to
> see other members get a bike like this from him...
> >
> >
> > Walt Skrzypek
> >
> > Falls Creek, Pa
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NortonMarg@aol.com
> > Sent: Jan 6, 2004 3:29 AM
> > To: wspokes@penn.com
> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Opinion needed, ebay gone wild.
> >
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> >
> > In a message dated 1/5/04 7:46:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> wspokes@penn.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > So last evening, I am settled down enough to go and look at this bike and
> see what I can do. I put it up for sale on the list and was going to
> wipe it off and clean it up. I remove the kickstand to find the rear
> crimped and crushed under the kickstand. Caveat Emptor? Am I just
> stuck with this lemon? This isn't even remotely worth the funds I
> paid for it now and I am really irritated. First, besides ruining
> the bike cosmetically, it needs a repaint anyway...I would have
> described the paint and beat up and well used...not as "the usual
> scratches and blemishes!". Is this frame structurally sound being
> crimped in that area?
> >
> > What leg do I have to stand on with this bike? any? any advice
> appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Walt,
> > I fit was mis-represented, tell the seller you want to send it back. Both
> the size and the condition seem to be wrong. Eat the shipping, but
> send it back. It's either that or sell it for a loss. OR, file an
> ebay fraud claim. Only good for a couple hundred, but it worked for
> that jerk in Oz who sold me that horribly repainted English frame. I
> relisted it with an "accurate" description and used that as evidence
> with ebay. The seller got his account canceled (for awhile). Try to
> work it out with the seller first.
> > Stevan Thomas
> > Alameda, A
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