Re: [CR]Ebay Scams and SELLER WARNING

(Example: Production Builders)

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:55:32 -0500
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Scams and SELLER WARNING
To: Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <CATFOODRaqbC8wSA1Xv0000055b@catfood.nt.phred.org> <40002A8D.4040404@sonic.net>


E-bay supposedly offers limited buyer protection against fraud. I'm not sure what the fine print says about foreign sales.

http://ebay.com/<blah>

The most you can collect is $175 in theory.

I tried this on a fraudulent transaction. My suspicion is that actual payouts from ebay almost never occur. The process is ponderous, the service horrible, the decisions capricious and non-appealable. Has anyone on the list ever been defrauded on ebay and collected?

Old munitions factories for dangerous operations were layed out as long elevated sheds with a fast opening door and a slide down to the ground every 20 feet or so on both sides of the shed. In theory this was for the workers safety and they used the jump chutes when faced with an imminent explosion. My cynical take was that the purpose was to get the workers to go in, not get them out. That's also my take on ebay fraud protection. The purpose is to give the buyer a false sense of protection so that they buy and it is not to actually remedy fraud.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Sexton
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:38 AM
Subject: [CR]Ebay Scams and SELLER WARNING



> I want to put a heads up out there because I fell for such a scam, being
> a 'newbie' ebay user about two years ago. Sent off $125.00 by Western
> Union to the Phillipines for some old Suntour bits. Received nada zip
> nothing, and e-bay did NOTHING to help me. I was a bit slow, being the
> trusting sort, so my options ran out for retreiving my money.
>
> Beware of this seller:
>
> Jose Ma. Alexis Cruz
> 34 Mount Everest, Filinvest 1
> Batasan Hills
> Quezon City, Metro Manila, 1126
> PHILIPPINES
>
> Last known e-mail address and e-bay I.D.:
>
> jmacc@bigfoot.com e-bay I.D. roadbiker
>
> Thanks for the space.
> Jay