Re: [CR]Re: MIG, TIG

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

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Subject: Re: [CR]Re: MIG, TIG
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:50:41 +0000


Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:59:58 -0600 From: Mark Stonich <mark@bikesmithdesign.com> To: worthy2@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: MIG, TIG

At 11/11/2004 11:25 AM -0800, Alan wrote:
>Am I missing somebody's important detail here, or was the point never made?
>Isn't there a crucial difference as to the type of welding that can be
>used to join NON-FERROUS metals like titanium (TIG will do it, as well as
>aluminum and stainless) and FERROUS metals (MIG, stick, torch-welding will
>work only on carbon steel and iron, not stainless steel or non-ferrous).

MIG can be used on Aluminum, Stainless and Titanium.

Now to get remotely back on topic;-)

I googled up the following table;

Welding and joining methods appropriate to titanium include: Arc Welding Processes, Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG), Metal Inert Gas (MIG), Plasma Arc (PAW). Power Beam Processes, Laser and Electron Beam (EB)welding. Resistance Welding, Spot, Seam and the Resista-CladTM cladding process. Friction Welding, Rotary, Radial, Linear, Orbital, Stir, Stud and other specific jointing techniques. Diffusion Bonding, None Forge Welding, None Explosive Bonding, None Brazing, None Soldering, None Adhesive Bonding, None

I'm sure the late Cecil Behringer would have gotten a chuckle over the "None" after Brazing. He not only brazed lugged Ti frames, he developed Ti brazing alloys.

Mark Stonich; BikeSmith Design & Fabrication 5349 Elliot Ave S. - Minneapolis. MN 55417 Ph. (612) 824-2372 http://bikesmithdesign.com

Oooh - EB welding, now *that* is a cool process! When I worked for the General (Motors), we had some vintage* EB cells that edge-welded five layers of 409 stainless steel together in one pass - absolutely stunningly smooth beads on what some said was impossible to do. There was one minor catch, though - each EB welding "cell" cost a cool $2 million US (in the late 1970s!). Those electrons didn't "beam up" cheaply..... Greg "beam me up, Scotty" Parker Ann Arbor, Michigan *note the vintage content....