Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older parts

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

From: <gpvb1@comcast.net>
To: "richardsachs@juno.com" <richardsachs@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older parts
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:36:20 +0000
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Two words, Benjamin: "Veloflex Criteriums."

Cheers, mate!

Greg Parker
Dexter, Meeechigan


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\r?\n> "P.S. After the hoods, what else would y'all want to see re-manufactured, and,

\r?\n> more importantly, what would you be willing to pay for those items? Let me know

\r?\n> (just curious, you never know what might be remotely possible, and I'm thinking

\r?\n> only vintage Campagnolo at this point)"

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\r?\n> i'd like more vinyl, and some good black and white film.

\r?\n> oh - and i thought the dave clark five and the searchers

\r?\n> were almost as good as the beatles. but failing the ability

\r?\n> to re-write history or re-issue everything under the sun,

\r?\n> how about tubulars????????????????????????????????????????

\r?\n> i can't look at an old bike with new tubulars anymore than

\r?\n> some folks can't handle a eai hood on their nr/sr levers.

\r?\n> e-RICHIE

\r?\n> chester, ct

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\r?\n> -- gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:

\r?\n> BMW has also figured this out. They have a whole division called Mobile

\r?\n> Tradition - you can get vintage motorcycle and car parts, clothing and gift

\r?\n> items, as well as maintenance and repair info. on CD. I betcha they turn a small

\r?\n> profit on it, and the marketing benefits in serving the "recommenders" like us

\r?\n> is potentially enormous.... They know that the old 2002/tii made them what they

\r?\n> are today, just like Campagnolo (should) know that NR/SR, to a large extent,

\r?\n> made them the player that they are today. It ain't rocket science.

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\r?\n> It absolutely baffles me as to why Campag won't re-tool $10,000 worth of

\r?\n> injection molds and make some damn world-logo gum hoods! They could sell them

\r?\n> wholesale for 10 times what they sold for "back in the day" and still sell a

\r?\n> whole bunch IMO. And the argument that "we 'vintage goofs' aren't going to go

\r?\n> out and buy some new Record 10 stuff, so why should they bother?" just doesn't

\r?\n> wash with me, sorry. That dog won't hunt. :-)

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\r?\n> Is Campy's old shield-logo hood deal with Euro-Asia so airtight that they fear a

\r?\n> legal battle from them if they do this? I doubt it. It just doesn't seem to make

\r?\n> sense from any angle I can envision.

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\r?\n> Greg "nostalgia, nostschmalgia, we need the parts!" Parker

\r?\n> Dexter, Michigan

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\r?\n> P.S. After the hoods, what else would y'all want to see re-manufactured, and,

\r?\n> more importantly, what would you be willing to pay for those items? Let me know

\r?\n> (just curious, you never know what might be remotely possible, and I'm thinking

\r?\n> only vintage Campagnolo at this point)

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\r?\n> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:57:27 -0500

\r?\n> From: Joe Bender-Zanoni

\r?\n> To: Classic Rendezvous

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after

\r?\n> bicycle compotents

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\r?\n> Other firms and hobbies have worked this out.

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\r?\n> John Deere tractors and farm implements has an amazing collector hobby. The

\r?\n> very active Two Cylinder Club puts out a magazine that is a delight.

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\r?\n> The company is enlightened and has a simple policy. They sell parts they

\r?\n> make money on. If you break the lens on your 1952 Model 40 U headlight you

\r?\n> trot over to the dealer. They sell you one just like the original. If the

\r?\n> part doesn't make money, they make the tool available to a smaller vendor

\r?\n> who perhaps can make it at a profit.

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\r?\n> Certain parts for even 1930's tractors are still available.

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\r?\n> They also reprint all the old manuals, in original style and fromat, for

\r?\n> very reasonable prices.

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\r?\n> I realize that not all is comparable to the bicycle hobby as some of the

\r?\n> same people who enjoy the tractor hobby go out and buy 1/4 million dollar

\r?\n> machines based on brand loyalty but at least John Deere doesn't fight the

\r?\n> hobbiests and nostalgia.

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\r?\n> Joe Bender-Zanoni

\r?\n> Great Notch, NJ

\r?\n> "Now Richie will roast me for nostalgia again"

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\r?\n> ----- Original Message -----

\r?\n> From: "Charles Nighbor"

\r?\n> To: "Classic Rendezvous"

\r?\n> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:36 PM

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after

\r?\n> bicycle compotents

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\r?\n> > Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after bicycle

\r?\n> compotents. I can see Campanolo remanufacturing brake hoods. But what about

\r?\n> parts that failed in the past. Even after many years of use they know they

\r?\n> failed at some point. Therefore what is their liability when they fail

\r?\n> again. They knew the orginal weakness in that particular compotent and they

\r?\n> did it again. Good luck in the courts.

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\r?\n> > Charles nighbor

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\r?\n> > Who just got his 1958 Hetchins back from Ed litton with a wonderful resray

\r?\n> in Walnut Creek, CA

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\r?\n> > Ask for pics.