Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older parts

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

From: <gpvb1@comcast.net>
To: David Patrick <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older parts
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:38:56 +0000


Hi Dave:

Been done, several times, shot down every single time, unfortuantely. More short-sightedness from the House of Campy. <sigh...>

C'est la guerre, I guess.

Greg Parker
Dexter, Michigan


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I wonder if we're perhaps looking at it the wrong way.... thinking we'll get Campy to reproduce these items. What happened many times in the collector car market (domestic autos) was that individuals got permission from Ford, GM, etc to reproduce items, with the Big Three providing the prints and original vendor info. For example: '57 Chevy taillight lenses, or GTO exhaust manifolds. Maybe someone should just ask Campy for legal permission to make the repro items, then Campy can possibly provide the specs and subcontactor info, and then the third party can assume the risk and reward of the endeavor. This would set up a Campagnolo "Heritage" line, perhaps? Take it right to Valentino Campagnolo, bypassing the other suits?

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan

gpvb1@comcast.net wrote: BMW has also figured this out. They have a whole division called Mobile Tradition - you can get vintage motorcycle and car parts, clothing and gift items, as well as maintenance and repair info. on CD. I betcha they turn a small profit on it, and the marketing benefits in serving the "recommenders" like us is potentially enormous.... They know that the old 2002/tii made them what they are today, just like Campagnolo (should) know that NR/SR, to a large extent, made them the player that they are today. It ain't rocket science.

It absolutely baffles me as to why Campag won't re-tool $10,000 worth of injection molds and make some damn world-logo gum hoods! They could sell them wholesale for 10 times what they sold for "back in the day" and still sell a whole bunch IMO. And the argument that "we 'vintage goofs' aren't going to go out and buy some new Record 10 stuff, so why should they bother?" just doesn't wash with me, sorry. That dog won't hunt. :-)

Is Campy's old shield-logo hood deal with Euro-Asia so airtight that they fear a legal battle from them if they do this? I doubt it. It just doesn't seem to make sense from any angle I can envision.

Greg "nostalgia, nostschmalgia, we need the parts!" Parker Dexter, Michigan

P.S. After the hoods, what else would y'all want to see re-manufactured, and, more importantly, what would you be willing to pay for those items? Let me know (just curious, you never know what might be remotely possible, and I'm thinking only vintage Campagnolo at this point)

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:57:27 -0500 From: Joe Bender-Zanoni To: Classic Rendezvous Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after bicycle compotents

Other firms and hobbies have worked this out.

John Deere tractors and farm implements has an amazing collector hobby. The very active Two Cylinder Club puts out a magazine that is a delight.

The company is enlightened and has a simple policy. They sell parts they make money on. If you break the lens on your 1952 Model 40 U headlight you trot over to the dealer. They sell you one just like the original. If the part doesn't make money, they make the tool available to a smaller vendor who perhaps can make it at a profit.

Certain parts for even 1930's tractors are still available.

They also reprint all the old manuals, in original style and fromat, for very reasonable prices.

I realize that not all is comparable to the bicycle hobby as some of the same people who enjoy the tractor hobby go out and buy 1/4 million dollar machines based on brand loyalty but at least John Deere doesn't fight the hobbiests and nostalgia.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ "Now Richie will roast me for nostalgia again"


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From: "Charles Nighbor"
To: "Classic Rendezvous"
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: [CR] Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after

bicycle compotents


> Asking Manufactures to remanufacture older sought after bicycle compotents. I can see Campanolo remanufacturing brake hoods. But what about parts that failed in the past. Even after many years of use they know they failed at some point. Therefore what is their liability when they fail again. They knew the orginal weakness in that particular compotent and they did it again. Good luck in the courts.
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> Charles nighbor
>
> Who just got his 1958 Hetchins back from Ed litton with a wonderful resray in Walnut Creek, CA

>

> Ask for pics.