I've especially enjoyed this thread. My first "good" bike was an orange Centurian Pro which I bought in 1973 at Fullerton Bike Shop in Southern California. As far as anyone can tell it is identical to a Windsor Profesional of similar vintage-so much so that when I had it repainted black in 1975 I was given Windsor deacals by Western States Imports. I still have the bike and ride it regularly. The ride and geometry compare very favorably to my early '90's Cinelli SC - I have to admit however, neither the Windsor or the modern Cinelli SC can compare to an early Cinelli in terms of workmanship and finish. Rod Handsfield, Hutchinson, KS.