Re: [CR]Re: my legnano/my luigino: also to Richard Sachs

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:21:16 -0800 (PST)
From: "r garni" <crispyflotilla@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: my legnano/my luigino: also to Richard Sachs
To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <41ACACB7.466AFA8@earthlink.net>


Dear Chuck,

But the Luigino IS lugged steel! And from what I understand, Dario scouts all over Europe for vintage parts and on at least one occasion visited the Bianchi factory to match paint colors from the old Legnanos...

Here are a few snippets from present Luigino owners from a Pegoretti owners' site--I feel like what he is doing is the most respectful way of saluting the past while embracing the present--

"The "new", custom Luiginos will be different because Dario doesn't have the same bits. But a few words about the first batch. These are _modern_ oldschool bikes. The toptube is not 1" but the more modern OS. The dropouts are the slightly "later" Campagnolo 1010B, not quite as long or as horizontal as the famous 1010A. The lugs are the key since Dario says they are not investment cast in the same way as modern ones. I've never quite fully followed his description but in order to use the modern tubing (this bike is Deda), you'd need "modern" diameter lugs. There are a few wonderful conceits to oldschool, the most obvious of which are the over the bb cable guide braze-ons (like you see still on Nagasawas) and the old fork crown (though I am not sure of its origin, I am sure it is Italian). The lugs are simple, crisp with good shorelines, not filed thin thin (as was the fashion in the 80s particularly)"

**

"Anyway my incoming frame will be painted in the old Legnano colors, Dario having gone to the current Bianchi factory (who now own the old Legnano stuff) to check out the versions of this famous color. This was above and beyond, but typical of Dario who is a thoughtful and gifted builder..."

Ricky Garni Carrboro, NC

PS: Richard: No! No! It's "My daughter / my sister." It was Faye Dunaway talking, in all her pasty glory!


--- Chuck Schmidt wrote:


> Roman Stankus wrote:
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Is it the Molteni orange that bugs you or the
> modern parts on a lugged steel
> > frame or both? Just wondering what doesn't work in
> your mind. What is a
> > "current bike"(per your post)in your mind? Are you
> still talking lugged
> > steel or something else? (cut)
>
> I think the word bug is a little strong. To me the
> twin plate fork
> crown and the Legnano paint job with seat bands etc.
> on the Pegoretti is
> a little too cute for a modern (current) bike
> (lugged steel in this
> case). Trying a little to hard to be hip? Kind of
> like the current
> crop of cars trading on the retro look? The Bug
> looks fun, just not
> sure I'd ever plunk down the money to own one.
>
> A current bike to me would be lugged steel, tigged
> steel, brazed steel,
> tigged aluminum, carbon (what have I left out) with
> current parts. And
> current parts would be anything from the last five
> or ten years.
> Actually some of the bikes I ride fall into this
> catagory ;)
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
> .
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