Re: [CR]KOF Build-Off?/Bake-Off

(Example: History:Norris Lockley)

From: <"brianbaylis@juno.com">
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:26:32 GMT
To: crispyflotilla@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CR]KOF Build-Off?/Bake-Off
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Ricky,

The one frame from many idea has been brought up sort of in the past. As I recall Peter Weigle was keen on the idea; but my opinion is that a frame like that would probably more likely look like a mongrel than a masterpiece. Reason being, in my opinion, that an exceptional frame get that way through a perfect balance of function, design, exicution, and character; and in that order. Needless to say, a frame like that would look differently in every case where each person did different parts of the work. Interesting thought, but again, a waste of valuable time from my perspective.

Not meaning to bust anyone's fantasy; but reality is out there every day with it's foot out, waiting for me to trip over it.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA "Reality is for people who can't handle drugs", or so they used to say in the 60's.


-- r garni wrote:


Because I used to be aligned to the Poetry World, I have to admit that I have very mixed feelings about poetry slams, build-offs, or geez, even bake offs.

I do love the possibilities, however, of the possibilities of collective talent united. I would be more interested in seeing a model that could be conceived by the industry of a collective talent of KOF; one frame from many. Or would that be a matter of two many chefs...?

Ricky Garni
Carrboro, NC


--- Joe Starck wrote:


>
> --- M4Campy@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > Mike Appel(who in my estimation is one of the
> best
> > craftsmen in
> > framebuilding, maybe
> > > even THE best, if such a contest could be
> devised
> >
> > Wow. After watching several Motorcycle build-offs
> on
> > the Discovery Channel I
> > think it would be awesome to see some of the best
> > Keepers of the Flame square
> > off. I wonder how many would be interested in
> > participating? Dale, you
> > could host the contest at the 2006 Cirque!!!
> >
> > The contest would be audience judged and the
> winner
> > would get the first KOF
> > trophy! I can
> > see it now. Sachs, Baylis, Johnson, Gordon,
> > Eisentraut, Stark, Goodrich,
> > Kirk, Moon, etc!
> >
>
> Nice list Mike. A bit short(Appel, Erickson, Mooney,
> Weigle, Bob Brown and a few dozen more would be my
> additional nominees)and you'd honestly have to
> remove
> that "Starck" guy, since he's no longer building,
> probably never will again, and more importantly,
> never
> made a living selling his own frames, just made for
> others, but since he is me, I'll nominate myself the
> qualified judge here of your short list, and by my
> own
> criteria of framebuilding and nothing else, allow
> for
> Mr. David Kirk to hold that trophy in Montana for at
> least the first year. Discovery Channel to Bozeman.
> Joe Starck,
> masidon, wi
>
>
> > Watcha think Dale?
> >
> > Mike "Did Trek use any washing machine parts on
> > their early bicycles?"
> > Wilkinson
> > Castle Rock, CO
> >
> >
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