.... I had expounded on
> what I thought was the hot lick and "the true way"
> of aesthetics, style and mojo,
> including KOF builders like Mssrs. Baylis, Sachs,
> Kvale, Gordon, Litton,
> Johnson, etc, and NOT the famous named but made
> other places frames/bikes. Highly
> opinionated, probably in the spirit of what most of
> you would agree on, but
> nonetheless OT.
Dale, Of your off-list expounding on the Luigino that went on-list, if not all of it, but at least the part where you "expounded on what <you> thought was the hot lick and "the true way" of aesthetics, style and mojo, including KOF builders...", why would that be "OT?" I wouldn't mind reading the part BB didn't post, your vision of the "hot lick...true way...mojo." Also, in spite of the frames copywriting, which read like a spoof to me, I'd at least have to see larger pics of the Luigino to make comments about it; it just looked like a little yellow/green frame to me. I'd actually have to have it in my hands, examine it, and then take it in from about 5' 9.25" before sayin' a word about it. Maybe Aaron Lipstadt can post some pics, didn't he say he bought one? Joe Starck, masidon, wi