Until all the recent discussions about Cinelli stems, I was also under the impression that all their steel stems had badges. OK - I now realize they didn't, which means that I probably saw a fair number ofthem and didn't realize it. So my question is this: did all their stems that lacked the badges have markings stamped into them? Or were there also steel Cinelli stems that simply devoid of visible markings? Cheers, Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia