My 1946 Clements has the Harden Hubs that Ben is talking about. I have tried to email pictures but they bounced back. Send me your email address on line Ben and I will resend Cheers Alistair Johnston White Rock, BC
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: Bikes in the house 2. Re: fake 3. stuff in my garage (garry nold) 4. Re: What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? (Stephen Barner) 5. Dissoplast Tape ebay outing 6. lost email ISO Moser, Pogh, Medici 7. What's in your garage? (Feeken, Dirk) 8. Re: What's in your garage? 9. RE: Harden Hubs on Ebay / wanted (Ben Kamen) 10. taipei bike show (Tom Martin) 11. Re: Sew-ups 12. bikes in garage /bedroom 13. What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? 14. Actual photos of what's in the garage (Jay Van De Velde) 15. Re: Actual photos of what's in the garage (Richard M Sachs) 16. ISO Peter Naiman 17. Re:Harden Hubs (Mick Butler) 18. What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? (Bingham, Wayne R.) 19. Eric Elman, please email me offlist (David Feldman)
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:09:54 +0000 From: mpcup70@comcast.net To: Ritzmon@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Bikes in the house Message-ID: <030220041509.14522.312b@comcast.net> Precedence: list Message: 1
I fortunately own...
1971 Masi Gran Criterium (Italy) 1971 Colnago Super 1973 ItalVega Super Record 1973 ItalVega Super Speciale 1980 Santana Tandem 1981 Gios Torino Super Record 1983 dave moulton Professional Road 1983 Colnago Mexico 1989 Bertoni Professionale 1989 Bridgestone MB 2 1990 DeRosa 1993 Marinoni 1996 Bianchi 1995 Colnago Master Light 1998 Bill Holland (Joe Bell paint job) 1999 Masi 3v (Italy - 70th anniversary decals)
Ciao,
Mike Carney
Eugene, Oregon
> My current collection:
>
> circa 1960 Bates BAR 63cm - all original with all British parts. My
> sentimental favorite. Had it for over 20 years.
> 1972 Hetchins Italia 63cm - All Nuovo Record, recently beautifully restored
> by Brian Baylis
> 1972 Rickert 63cm - Fixed gear mongrel right now
> 1960 Cinelli SC 60cm - 2nd owner, restored by Cyclart
> 1963 Carlton Flyer 63cm - 2nd owner all original, just getting it cleaned up
> again after using it as my commuter
> 1983 Ritz track - Columbus MS tubing fillet brazed by me! It's even
> straight! Angles are a little off though...
> Mid 80's Fangio - from a list member, not built yet
> 1994 Rivendell Road - All Campy 8 speed
> 2003 Bates Volante 63cm - actually there are 2, as these were wedding present
> to my wife and me. Hers is 53cm, though. Kinda cute...
> Early 90's Specialized S-Works track bike 60cm. One of only 4 ever built. I
> designed it and one of the guys in the lab built it.
> Other off topic road and mountain bikes...
>
> Cheers,
> Mark Ritz
> Arcata, CA
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:36:49 EST From: GPVB1@cs.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]fake Message-ID: <11d.2bed9b61.2d760411@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2
Well, this (probable virus) sure didn't come from me. Dude, whoever you are, can you be any more specific? ;-)
The real Greg Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 08:07:55 -0800 From: "garry nold" <lksbks@ix.netcom.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]stuff in my garage Message-ID: <029301c40070$886d7b30$9ddb4b43@Garry> References: <e4.47f099a1.2d75d7d6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: garry nold <lksbks@ix.netcom.com> Message: 3
Caution, some fringe topic:
198x Austro-Diamler Superleicht 2x1987 Tommaso SLX(1 to ride,1 to look at) 1988 Tommaso CroMor (NOS frame) 1990 Bottechia SL (ADR) 1991 LeMond TSX 199x Benotto (fixed) 1999 Stevenson (flame keeper) 2002 Della Santa (Masi lugs)
Garry Nold Kent, WA
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:07:48 -0500 From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? Message-ID: <005901c40070$827d3f80$6400a8c0@bourke> References: <CATFOODogxLDp7mvjkO0000176a@catfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4
Picked up this thread late, so I got carried away with my inventory before realizing that the original author only wanted the top three. I would have the rank my favorites based on riding, because anything characteristic that doesn't make the bike ride better is just neat weirdness or eye-candy.
#1 '82 Marinoni. Peggy told me to be careful when I was placing the order because she said that having my wife's name engraved in one stay cap would mean rebrazing and repainting, if I ever left her. Both the frame and the wife are still fantastic. 25th anniversary in a few days. #2 '78 Raleigh Track. It's just so much fun to ride. #3 '75 Kydd Tandem. A strange, incredibly light beast made of 531 standard road and track tubing. Lots of fun to ride.
On-topic bikes scattered around the estate;
1938 Gachon (Montreal), restored, but too big for me, full chrome, 3-spd
freewheel, alloy brakes and bars.
1940 Gachon, tourist model, 3-spd freewheel, complete and unrestored. I
purchased both of these bikes from the couple who had owned them since new.
1957? Peugeot PH-55 unrestored, mostly complete.
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer. Just finished restoration.
http://biketoss.com/
Possibly off-topic; Colnago Master, Columbus Gilco tubing, all Super Record, mint Bianchi Squadra (only bike I have that clicks) Bianchi Squadra frameset (a little larger than previous, should fit better when I get around to painting it and switching the parts over) Raleigh Team Professional frameset, Reynolds 753, red & blue, waiting for it to get warm enough outside to paint it.
Squeezed in amongst these are a few dozen OT bikes, ranging from 1892 to the mid '80s. mostly American iron, 3-speeds and a couple of mountain bikes.
Steve Barner, Bolton, Vermont, where the mud is melting, the maple sap is flowing, and there is still a foot of snow on the ground
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:21:01 EST From: M4Campy@aol.com To: Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Dissoplast Tape ebay outing Message-ID: <d5.685be0a.2d760e6d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5
Way before my time but thought this was of interest. Also, my French consists of fries so I am not sure if plast means tape or if this company is related to tressoplast.?.
Check out his other goodies too:)
Mike Wilkinson Castle Rock, CO
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:18:11 EST From: ABikie@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]lost email ISO Moser, Pogh, Medici Message-ID: <59.69eb853.2d761bd3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6
Sorry for the list-wide notice Someone asked me for pix of a 61 Moser, Pogh, and Medici. I found the bikes. To whom was i supposed to send them?
Larry black Mt Airy, Md
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:58:32 +0100 From: "Feeken, Dirk" <dirk.feeken@sap.com> To: "'Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]What's in your garage? Message-ID: <333D9700B499084C9DF804896DDA71781145C4A7@dewdfx14.wdf.sap.corp> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7
1952 Piemontesi with Paris Roubaix gear
1962 Cinelli Mod B, Gran Sport, Weinmann
1974 Raleigh Team Pro 753, 1st gen SR
1978 Gios Super Record, 2nd gen SR
1982 Masi Prestige "Aero"
1983 Colnago Mod? with Anniversary group
1987 Faggin Matrix (my first real lightweight)
199? Pinarello Gavia
1991 Guylaine, Columbus SPX (german high end fast touring bike, my daily commuter)
1995 Hans Lutz Quattro Stagnioni (german high end loaded touring bike)
1996 Cinelli SC, Chorus
199? Merckx Strada OS with late 80s Croce d'Aune
2003 Alex Singer Randonneuse, classic french parts
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:03:49 EST From: BobHoveyGa@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: What's in your garage? Message-ID: <83.6a34b8a.2d762685@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8
OK I'm not in the same league as any of you folks, the only truly on-topic bike I own belonged to my father and is WAY too big for me to ride. Don't ask me how I ended up so short when my father is 6' 3", the only clue I have is that when I was a kid, the neighborhood milkman's nickname was "Stumpy".
Anyway, it's a 65 cm Peugeot PX-10 with mostly Nervex Pro lugs (somebody recently said '72 was the last year for the Pros... there must have been later "transitional" bikes because I had a '73 PX-10 with a Pro fork crown, BB, and seat lug, but plain HT lugs. My Dad's bike, bought a year later, had Pro HT lugs and seat lug, with plain BB and fork crown). I am in the process of cleaning it up to sell or trade towards a nice vintage frame.
So what on-topic bikes do I actually ride? <gulp> none, actually... unless you can count my two Masi's as KOF's (one is a beautiful '88 San Marcos Gran Criterium /Campy Chorus and the other is a pedestrian '93 Bilatto-built Gran Corsa).
I'm still looking for that perfect vintage Masi to buy that I can have a ball restoring and even more fun riding. It's been tough tho... I have very short legs and it seems that every Masi my size in the US is sitting in Brian's garage...
You may ask what I'm doing here since I don't own a stable of fine vintage machines... well, I loved those bikes when I was young and those machines were new, and I love them still. There is nothing I see in the bike shops these days that can come close in grace, beauty, or craftsmanship. But more importantly, the people on this list are some of the nicest and friendliest I've ever met, and many of you have become like family. Bless you all.
Bob Hovey Columbus, GA ------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:51:06 -0500 From: Ben Kamen <dupe@mac.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]RE: Harden Hubs on Ebay / wanted Message-ID: <2E843DCE-6C72-11D8-B0EA-000393B3BF4C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9
Hey all,
Should any here be keen on these be known that my current bid is my high bid & i am going no higher. I'll happily take them but my intention is in using them as trade bait for that elusive "dinner plate" version of the Harden's with no holes on the flanges.
The auction has been outed here already so no link is needed but below is the CR link containing the print ad for the hubs i desire (bottom of page - Oppy) - anyone got a pair? Even if not for sale please post pics to keep my blood runnin' till i find a set of my own.
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
ciao,
ben kamen, NYC
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:02:09 -0800 From: "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com> To: "CR list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]taipei bike show Message-ID: <017b01c40080$8ee988e0$7001a8c0@lobby> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10
Anyone going to the taipei bike show? Interested in meeting up for a = quick hello or cheerio or something?=20
Tom Martin Oakland CA
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:16:05 EST From: Cushdelmar@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: Sew-ups Message-ID: <c.23a873ce.2d762965@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11
There still some of us who ride sew-ups every day. Even my wife rides tubulars. I don't mind gluing on tires: I put on my gluing overalls and it takes me about ten minutes to glue on a tire. Studies show that tubulars get fewer flats than clinchers although I'm not absolutely convinced. Tubulars are often less expensive that clinchers especially Tufos but there are other brands like Schwabe. Large urban areas are plagued with debris especially glass. But if you live out in the country, I was expect clinchers and tubulars to last forever.
Jim Cushing-murray Del Mar CA ------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:29:59 EST From: TonyFNitro@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]bikes in garage /bedroom Message-ID: <1f0.1a6eb5cd.2d762ca7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12
greetings
1 colnago 2 paramounts 2 holdsworth 2 mercier 4 peugeots 1 teledyne 1 ideor 1 atala 1 stella 1 harry quinn 1 allegro 1 medici 1 windsor 1 alan 1 bertoni 1 cbt italia 1 milano sport 1 cilo 2 unknown any one got a bedroom for rent.
robbie fellows long beach.ca.
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 13:31:06 -0500 From: PaulieFlt@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? Message-ID: <5D1FB63F.36189CBD.0272BEE6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 13
OK, here goes:
77 Vitus 83 Colnago 72 Raleigh International 80's Pogliaghi 81 Richard Sachs 80 Mondia 80's Della Santa Masi (San Marco -date?) Robin Hood cruisin' bike (thanks, Matt!) 80's Bianchi (Al's bike)
I couldn't possibly rank them, though there's one I grab first when I don't have time to think about which bike to take, and another I ride when my neck and shoulders are REALLY bothering me. However, all are ridden regularly (though not at speeds they were designed for yet (hope springs eternal...)), and are lovingly maintained and constantly admired by me. I have a small bike shop out back in our garage that is my quiet retreat. Though I have lots to learn, I am really having a great time with the whole classic bike thing.
Thanks for all the interesting responses to this thread, Paulie Davis Los Angeles ------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jay Van De Velde <jaysportif@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Actual photos of what's in the garage Message-ID: <20040302183959.60937.qmail@web20212.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14
http://photos.yahoo.com/
Still stuck with YahooPhotos, sorry. The bikes:
-1898 Eagle Quad Stay track -1925 AutoMoto TdF -1931 James -1936 Gloria -1937 Allegro -1938 Moorson Twin Tube -1946 Gillott Taper Tube * -1947 Baines Flying Gate * -1949 Atala w cambio corsa -1950 Thanet Silverlight * -1951 Atala w Paris Roubaix -1954 Bates BAR * -1955 Gillott Taper Tube * -1957 Hetchins curly Experto Crede (23"so its trade bait for a similar curly/fancy lugged 24" -25" frame) -1965 Bianchi Team -next in line for a restoration -1968 Hetchins Road/Path -1968 Pogliaghi -1972 Cinelli SC -1972 Colnago Super -1975 Jack Taylor -1976 Pogliaghi -1980 Jack Taylor -1981 Colnago track -198x Colnago Duall Ergal (almost on topic)
* refinished bikes- all others original
Jay Van De Velde Seal Beach, CA
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:44:31 -0500 From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> To: jaysportif@yahoo.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Actual photos of what's in the garage Message-ID: <20040302.134432.7980.58.richardsachs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15
whas da name written on the 72 cinelli top tube????????? e-RICHIE chester, ct
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:39:59 -0800 (PST) Jay Van De Velde
<jaysportif@yahoo.com> writes:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
>
> Still stuck with YahooPhotos, sorry. The bikes:
>
> -1898 Eagle Quad Stay track
> -1925 AutoMoto TdF
> -1931 James
> -1936 Gloria
> -1937 Allegro
> -1938 Moorson Twin Tube
> -1946 Gillott Taper Tube *
> -1947 Baines Flying Gate *
> -1949 Atala w cambio corsa
> -1950 Thanet Silverlight *
> -1951 Atala w Paris Roubaix
> -1954 Bates BAR *
> -1955 Gillott Taper Tube *
> -1957 Hetchins curly Experto Crede (23"so its trade bait for a
> similar curly/fancy lugged 24" -25" frame)
> -1965 Bianchi Team -next in line for a restoration
> -1968 Hetchins Road/Path
> -1968 Pogliaghi
> -1972 Cinelli SC
> -1972 Colnago Super
> -1975 Jack Taylor
> -1976 Pogliaghi
> -1980 Jack Taylor
> -1981 Colnago track
> -198x Colnago Duall Ergal (almost on topic)
>
> * refinished bikes- all others original
>
> Jay Van De Velde
> Seal Beach, CA
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:51:26 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: chasds@mindspring.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]ISO Peter Naiman Message-ID: <27450505.1078253489643.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: chasds@mindspring.com Message: 16
Sorry about this...but Peter seems incommunicado and I really need to reach him.
Peter...if you see this, please e-mail me! It's important.
Thanks.
Charles ------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:20:38 +0000 From: "Mick Butler" <pariscyclesuk@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Re:Harden Hubs Message-ID: <Law11-F27aOev7gZ4tQ00020261@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 17
The type of Harden hub that Ben refers to as "Dinner Plates" are commonly called "Bacon Slicer's" in the UK. I am not telling "Porky's"! Pork pies is cockney rhyming slang for lies.
Best wishes and be lucky. Michael Butler Huntingdon UK.
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:43:05 -0500 From: "Bingham, Wayne R." <WBINGHAM@imf.org> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]What's in your garage/apartment/warehouse? Message-ID: <D24CD8D2A42DBE408E31D99568D7AAFFD8E200@mlsswn02p.was.int.imf.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 18
Okay, I'll play. No favorites (all are favorites until I have to sell or trade to make room for others). Who's compiling all this?
Wayne Bingham Falls Church VA
Complete Bikes
1972 Charles Martin (modified - city bike 5sp) 1972 Colin Laing (conventional - period spec) 1973 Rickert (fixed-gear conversion) 1973 Raleigh Super Tourer (modified - city bike/hot rod) 1973 Charles Martin (conventional - period spec) 1973 Raleigh RRA (conventional - period spec)=20 1976 Masi Prestige (in progress - conventional - period spec) 1980 Raleigh Superbe (conventional - period spec) 1983 Stan Pike (conventional - period spec) 1983 McLean (conventional - period spec) 1984 Trek 770 (modified - hot rod) 1984 Trek 720 (modified - touring) 1984 Trek Custom Track (conventional - period spec) 1984 Telavio Track (in progress - conventional - period spec) 1985 Raleigh Team USA 753 (conventional - period spec) 1988 Falcon Harrier (fixed-gear conversion) 1999 Independent Fabrication Crown Jewel (modified - anti-retro modern spec) 2000 Independent Fabrication Planet Cross (conventional - modern spec) 2000 Pete Ryffranck (conventional - modern spec) 2000 Richard Sachs (conventional - modern spec) 2000 Pinarello Prince (conventional - modern spec) 2000 De Rosa Planet (conventional - modern spec) 198x Miyata Alumicross (modified - hybrid/cross)
Unassembled Bikes (frames, 90/100% components, ready to build)
1983 3Rensho (conventional - period spec) 1984 Trek 760 (conventional - period spec) 1987 De Rosa (conventional - period spec) 1989 Eddy Merckx Grand Prix (conventional - period spec)
Frames
1983 Trek 660 1986 De Rosa 1988 Schroeder 198x Chesini Olympiad 198x Ken Evans 198x Colnago Super 198x Mountain Goat Rt. 66 198x Nishiki TT (650) 1999 Voodoo Rada
MTB
Bridgestone MB-1, Bridgestone MB-2, Airborne Lucky Strike, Trek Carbon ST, Cannondale F1000, Klein Mantra FS=20
Oddities and Esoterica
Hutch HPV, Hutch Pro Racer, Diamond Back Formula One, Mosh Freestyle, Racelite 24 Cruiser, Giant Simple cruiser, Performance Pulse
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:56:02 -0800 (PST) From: David Feldman <feldmanbike@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Eric Elman, please email me offlist Message-ID: <20040302195602.19057.qmail@web40702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 19
Thanks David Feldman Vancouver, WA
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