Just for the record. Does any body remember the Nervex lugs that some one on the list brought to our attention. Well I told a friend and he won the bid on Ebay and brought me the lugs to build a frame for him. If any body wants I will keep you abreast of the build process. I am now at the drawing up the full size design of the frame and will start cutting the tubes in a few days. Steven Willis 1778 East Second Street Scotch Plains NJ 07076 908-322-9022 http://www.thebikestand.com