Thanks, Duane. What I have is the 36F. The catalog calls this a "Rattrap Pedal", although I would have applied this term more to the mod 460, which the catalog calls a "Course Pedal'. I think the term "rattrap" has always been applied very loosely. Does anyone know the origin of this term, and what type of pedal it was originally applied to?
Regards,
Jerry Moos Houston, TX
Duane Kennard <d.kennard@adelphia.net> wrote:
Gang,
I was guessing that the aluminum alloy-caged Lyotard pedal was the 45CA based on this page from the '74 Cyclo-Pedia catalog seen here:
http://bulgier.net/
Other sellers may have given them a different #; I don't know. Both of my '71ish Motobécane Le Champion bikes came with that all alloy (but steel spindle) pedals.
Cheers,
Duane Kennard
On Aug 10, 2004, at 5:51 AM, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
> I'm familiar with the Lyotard 45D (Dural) which usually came on early
> 70's PX-10s, and with the 45A (Acier), which is pretty much the same
> pedal with steel cage plates. Both have the road quill on the outer
> end. However, I have a late 60's PX-10 with different Lyotard
> pedals. These have no road quill, only small ridges on the ends of
> the plates, like a track pedal. Cleverly, the ridges on the "rear"
> plate are on the top, and those on the "front" plate are on the
> bottom, so that whichever way the pedal is turned, the tabs are in the
> right place, and there is no top or bottom of the pedal. Was this the
> 45CA? The plates are steel, so that matches the "A".
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
> Sheldon Brown wrote:
> Donald Gillies wrote:
>
> >>Q: Who made an all-aluminum (barrels, quills) pedal outside of italy
> >>(campy, gipiemme) and japan (mks) in the 1970's ?? What were some of
> >>the model names / numbers ? Thank you.
>
> Duane Kennard top-posted:
>
> >How about the Lyotard #45CA (not positive of the #),
>
> In Lyotard, the "A" stands for "acier" (i.e. "steel.")
>
> >or the Barelli Supreme?
> >Also the Zeus Criterium, the TA, and the Phil Wood. I'm sure there
> >were lots more...
>
> Don't forget Atom.
>
> Sheldon "Aluminiminimumum" Brown
> Newtonville, Massachusetts